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::::I again disagree. I know "wooden gate" has been said in the Guide Books, but then "bramble gate" has been mentioned in the Prima books, which are both official. But in cases like this, the name's been around for years at this point. I feel like most Pikmin fans refer to the wall as a bramble gate, or at least people I speak to refer to it as that. Changing it now, more than a decade after it's been called this, is likely to be confusing to most players no? I don't think using the Wollyhop/Wog example works in this case. I'd argue it'd work similar to Pyramid Head as the proper name for him is Red Pyramid Thing, yet no one refers to him as that. If the article gets renamed, it gets renamed. But I think it would just confuse a lot of people. [[User:Chazmatron|Chazmatron, signing off!]] [[User talk:Chazmatron|(TALK)]] 15:20, January 26, 2025 (GMT) | ::::I again disagree. I know "wooden gate" has been said in the Guide Books, but then "bramble gate" has been mentioned in the Prima books, which are both official. But in cases like this, the name's been around for years at this point. I feel like most Pikmin fans refer to the wall as a bramble gate, or at least people I speak to refer to it as that. Changing it now, more than a decade after it's been called this, is likely to be confusing to most players no? I don't think using the Wollyhop/Wog example works in this case. I'd argue it'd work similar to Pyramid Head as the proper name for him is Red Pyramid Thing, yet no one refers to him as that. If the article gets renamed, it gets renamed. But I think it would just confuse a lot of people. [[User:Chazmatron|Chazmatron, signing off!]] [[User talk:Chazmatron|(TALK)]] 15:20, January 26, 2025 (GMT) | ||
::::If the Prima Guide is also an official source, then it should stay as "Bramble gate" as it's more commonly referred as that name to begin with. But if it were to be moved to "Wooden gate", I think it should at least mention that Prima calls them "Bramble gates" to prevent potential confusion. [[User:Dolphinius|Dolphinius]] ([[User talk:Dolphinius|talk]]) 11:08, January 26, 2025 (EST) | ::::If the Prima Guide is also an official source, then it should stay as "Bramble gate" as it's more commonly referred as that name to begin with. But if it were to be moved to "Wooden gate", I think it should at least mention that Prima calls them "Bramble gates" to prevent potential confusion. [[User:Dolphinius|Dolphinius]] ([[User talk:Dolphinius|talk]]) 11:08, January 26, 2025 (EST) | ||
In a discussion on the Discord server, it was considered whether to merge this article with the [[Dirt wall]] article. This is because Japanese guidebooks consistently refer to this type of gate as a dirt wall, and because the texture of the gate looks like dirt. [[User:Twins1105|Twins1105]], [[User:2 B|2 B]], and [[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] advocated for calling these gates dirt walls. I advocated against this, because I thought that calling these gates "dirt walls" would be confusing because they don't look and sound like dirt. We discussed whether it was more accurate to consider the dirt walls in ''Pikmin 3'' and ''Pikmin 4'' to be a redesign of the gates in ''Pikmin'' and ''Pikmin 2'', or whether it was more accurate to consider them a different type of obstacle with the same basic function. I also mentioned that the current Bramble gate and Dirt wall articles document quite different things, and that merging the articles would cause many different mechanics to be documented on the same page. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 19:46, January 26, 2025 (EST) |