Talk:Music

In response to Espyo's edit of my edit - would it more correctly be termed as a glissando? The definition of that term is "a glide from one pitch to another." Would you characterize the "increase in tone" you are referring to as such? -Los Plagas

Sure. The section of the song goes like C#, D#, F, F#, G#, A#. You can hear it at 0:40 in this less-than-stellar video. From what I gather, a glissando is a single note that increases in pitch as it's being held, so it's not a glissando or crescendo. There might not even be a term at all, but I'm sure it could be worded a bit better than how I wrote it. — {Espyo^T} 07:40, 1 November 2013 (EDT)

Do we have any info on Pikmin 3 music?

I am become death. (talk) 04:41, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean? I mean, we have the game and people like Gilvasunner have been able to rip the music. I mean, you could probably add info you have on it. I don't really know how I would help right now. StuperStar (talk) 23:42, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

The music across these games is very important; I feel this page could use some more musical detail about it. Specifically more info about how Pikmin 3's tracks dynamically change; and even possibly a table detailing the musical cues in each area of each game. I apologize that I'm very new to editing pages, but I feel I can get the hang of it. Scruffy (talk) 10:26, May 27, 2015 (EST)

Don't be overwhelmed. Go right ahead and edit it! If you do something suboptimal, somebody will come around and clean it. Hey, just on this talk page, you already followed a lot of points that most beginners miss, so I think you're off to a great start. Do keep in mind how each game handles music dynamics slightly differently, however. By this I mean that it's better if the article explains the quirks of each game's musical system instead of giving a general overview and assuming they're all identical. — {Espyo^T} 11:53, 27 May 2015 (EDT)

Thank you for your support! You are certainly right that the three games do not handle their musical systems identically. In fact, I've been thinking about it today, and it seems that the games handle it differently enough that each game could get its own page about its music, and this article could become a way to reach those pages. But this page would still keep its info on composers and music outside the series. (Also, sorry I forgot we are on daylight savings time!) Scruffy (talk) 7:58, May 27, 2015 (EDT)

I thought about it a bit, and you know what, I quite agree! Plus, the articles could serve as a way for us to document each song. Although this has limited usefulness for Pikmin and Pikmin 3, it's a great way to explain to readers what the song in each sublevel is in Pikmin 2. Like, on a sublevel's sub-section on an article, instead of saying "Music: Same as the one in Bla Bla, sublevel yadda", or worse still, giving each song a fan-given name, we can just link to the song section on the Pikmin 2 music article. If you can make the sort of analysis you're doing for the Pikmin 1 music article, but for all songs, and on all games, I have no doubt the music information on Pikipedia will be amazing. Please, keep it up! — {Espyo^T} 09:35, 5 June 2015 (EDT)

Perfect! Sorry I wasn't able to get to it lately, but today I can work on it some more, and hopefully get to Pikmin 2. And thank you so much for adding all the other titles to the first game's music article! Scruffy (talk) 10:20, 6 June 2015 (EDT)

No problem! I'm not that hot on music theory, but let me know if you need other sort of tasks of the sort that don't require music theory knowledge, so that we can split the workload for creating those articles between the two of us. Can't wait for these articles to finish, they're so interesting! — {Espyo^T} 11:51, 6 June 2015 (EDT)

Well, I did have a question before I begin Pikmin 2's music. I have a lot of research to do to about cave music, and I was wondering what we should name each track, since most of them occur across multiple caves. I was thinking we could name them something broad and all-encompassing like "snow sublevels," "yard sublevels" and so on. The source I'm going to be using for the music does use specific names (such as "Cold Chasm" for the second sublevel of the Emergence Cave), but I don't know if those are official. What do you think?

I think we checked this before, and no, the titles aren't official. Hm, it's complicated. If we could find a good pattern between what songs are used where, we could use descriptive names that aren't titles. Otherwise, we could call it the name of the first appearance, or just give them all a number... — {Espyo^T} 09:43, 7 June 2015 (EDT)

Dynamic

Now that this page is mostly a hub page for the specific music articles, I think it could have a small section explaining the way the music is dynamic in the games, very briefly. I see it like this: for details on how a specific game handles the music and its variations, the reader checks the specific game's music article. But for general information on how dynamic music affects the gameplay of the series in general, they should go to the general music article. We can probably add other "general" aspects about the series' music to this article too. At the very least, it makes the article feel more useful than a simple disambiguation page. — {Espyo^T} 08:07, 19 July 2015 (EDT)

Looks good, now! — {Espyo^T} 09:23, 20 July 2015 (EDT)

Page names

In order to fit the style of [[Unused content in Pikmin 2]] (page will come later), Glitches in Pikmin 3, etc., I say we name the music articles "Music in Pikmin", "Music in Pikmin 2", etc. The point of having a disambiguation in parentheses is for when the subject has the actual name that isn't in parentheses, but because that name can refer to more than one thing, the parentheses are needed. A good example is Challenge Mode (Pikmin) and Challenge Mode (Pikmin 2). The subject on the first page is "Challenge Mode"; that's its name, 100%. The subject on the second is also exactly called "Challenge Mode". Hence, this is where the parentheses come into play. Thoughts? — {Espyo^T} 09:23, 20 July 2015 (EDT)

That makes sense to me! There is nothing in the games specifically called "Music" besides the option to turn it down; hence, you're right, the term "music" wouldn't refer to anything but the music in the game. How do you rename a page? Scruffy (talk) 09:37, 20 July 2015 (EDT)

Just click on "Move" at the top, like you would the "Edit" button. Do you want to take care of this? If not, I can do it. I think it'd be better to fix all links to the pages too, so we can delete all signs of "Music (Pikmin)" and such. — {Espyo^T} 11:37, 20 July 2015 (EDT)

Oh, yeah, don't worry about it. I'll take care of that. Scruffy (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2015 (EDT)

Excellent work! I don't know what else we can do to the articles. I think they're "finished". — {Espyo^T} 07:04, 21 July 2015 (EDT)

Thank you! Yeah, I guess I'll still work on the "to do" things, and eventually patch those up, but for now, I agree, they're essentially complete, until the next Pikmin installment. Scruffy (talk) 08:41, 21 July 2015 (EDT)

I hope you'll be available then, hehe. Who knows where our lives will end up in 1, 3, 10 years from now... — {Espyo^T} 10:19, 21 July 2015 (EDT)

Boss battle variations

We've included the attack tunes in Pikmin 2s boss battle theme as separate parts,why we don't do it on Pikmin 3s Mini Boss and Boss Battle Themes? -User:Beta Brittany/sig

Neither me nor Scruffy were able to get good sound bits of the song parts in Pikmin 3. — {Espyo^T} 08:25, 17 March 2016 (EDT)

Track titles in Smash

All the track titles in Music in Pikmin 2 and Music in Pikmin 3 are marked as conjectural (since their soundtracks have never been released), but some of the tracks are named in the SSB series.

• Pikmin 2
  • World Map - SSBB / SSB4 / SSBU
  • Stage Select - SSB4 / SSBU

• Pikmin 3
  • Garden of Hope - SSB4 / SSBU
  • Mission Mode - SSB4 / SSBU

Shouldn't these be considered official names? I wasn't sure if I should made the changes myself or ask first. 147.135.30.24 18:00, May 15, 2024 (EDT)

Song names from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate have been used in the Music in Hey! Pikmin article to name songs there. However, I don't think we should necessarily do the same for the other articles, since some of these official titles conflict with the way we name certain types of songs, such as menus. But these names should definitely still be documented, in the sections for each of these songs. A similar case to this is Pikmin 2's Piklopedia theme, which was released on a compilation album under the title "flora and fauna". We don't use that as the main name for the song, but we do document it. — Soprano_(talk) 18:37, May 15, 2024 (EDT)

I feel the need to bring up that we actually do use official track names in other places, specifically for the majority of tracks from the first Pikmin game due to the Japan only Pikmin World CD. -Gulliblepikmin 18:42, May 15, 2024 (EDT)

It makes sense to use official names for that game since every piece of music in the game is on the soundtrack album, but for the other games only a small number of songs have official names. — Soprano_(talk) 21:20, May 18, 2024 (EDT)