Talk:Arboreal Frippery

red or green?

It may be because I have the PAL version but why is the leaf green? In my version it's red, if so, should we note the difference... User:Joshazilla23

Oh wow, I never even noticed that. Pretty sure it's red in my version too (PAL), though it's been a while since I saw it. NTSC people, is it green in your version? If not, image fails.GP

What??? It's red in your version? Mine's always green! This is a neat discovery. In my opinion I think that a red leaf would look out of place for the area. You don't see any red leaves in perplexing pool (the overworld where the shower room is located) it seems that you'd find a red leaf somewhere like Wistful Wild. Portal-Kombat

Pehaps a gust of wind blew the leaf from the wistful wild to the peplexing pool, the in 'fell' into the shower room, that or there may of been a japenese tree in the shower room many years ago, and thats all that is left. User:joshazilla23

Well I looked it up on an image search and there are both green and red japanese maple trees alike, so it could merely be a little extra thing that either the NTSC or the PAL people put in one way or another. In any case, I'd like to see what the red leaf looks like. Portal-Kombat

Image here. I'm loathe to upload it here as it kind of fails, but whatever. For your viewing pleasure.GP

So, the cake is not a lie. Portal-Kombat

Comment by ShadowRaptor101 on 18th May 2014

It's a marijuana leaf guys. You can't blatantly see the differentiations from a Japanese Maple leaf? Idk why yall are so scared of admiting it. You seem to be forgetting that this is Nintendo, the same company who make characters like a transgendered ghost in an RPG game and a cross-dressing pink dinosuar in an old NES game. I don't know why yall are so desperate the censor the fact that it's clearly a marijuana leaf. You might as well also state on every other treasure that "it's never expliciblty stated that [TREASURE] is actually a [OBJECT], but it resembles one."

Honestly people, it's just a plant. Stop trying to censor it. It's not like small children are going to find this article and then be inspired to 420BLAZEIT every day for the rest of their lives. - ShadowRaptor101 (talk • contribs)

420 Praise it - Jpmrocks7 (talk • contribs)

It honestly does look a little more like a marijuana leaf than a maple leaf, but I'm just saying that it could very well be either/or. The leave design resembles marijuana, but it is not spiky enough to be one. I don't think that there is anything wrong with stating that there could be either of the two. - AeroBlaze777 (talk • contribs)

Then why are you trying to censor it -__- honestly if we're going to say "It KINDDA looks like a marijuana leaf, but it never SAYS it's one..." then we also should change the other 190 treasures that qualify for that same statement to be said about them. It'd be 1000x easier to just accept that it's a marijuana leaf, which the original Japanese text practically confirms. I am pretty sure Nintendo wasn't trying to make it look exactly like an actual Marijuana leaf, since they were busy trying to just fill the game with as much content as possible, and the American localization team just wanted to avoid any complaints parents might've made about their children collecting a leaf from a hallucinagenic plant that they probably had no knowlege about at the time. 

Also, it's found on the ONE floor in a hostile cave that is completely serene and beautiful. You're gonna tell me that's not symbolism enough for you? XD - ShadowRaptor101 (talk • contribs)

I wasn't trying to censor it. I re-worded my phrase a little better, so hopefully you get what I was going at now. - AeroBlaze777 (talk • contribs)

I will end this right now, it depends on what version of the game you have. In Japan, its a weed leaf. In US, its a green japanese maple leaf. In UK, it's a red Japanese maple leaf. End of discussion. - Jpmrocks7 (talk • contribs)

Tank u, Josh-san. - AeroBlaze777 (talk • contribs)

Comment by Ryenlee on 19th May 2014

Yeah what he said! - Ryenlee (talk • contribs)

Regarding "One Hit Death"

This page has mentioned that this treasure is supposedly called One Hit Death for quite some time and that its description in the japanese version had the implication that the leaf was actually a weed leaf. Thing is, there's no proof. There's no translation of the notes and thus no proof for its existence, making it quite likely it's a hoax. I would also like to point out that this same info dates back as far as 2008. https://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Arboreal_Frippery&direction=next&oldid=2854 If I recall, back then, there wasn't much information about the Japanese versions of the game mostly because most editors of the wiki weren't japanese, and a large amount of these notes about JPN versions of the game ended up being hoaxes, like strawberries supposedly being obtainable in Japanese Pikmin 1, making me suspect even more that this is a hoax. So I would like to request someone with a Japanese copy of Pikmin 2 to transcribe the text in the Treasure Hoard for this treasure, write it down onto this page, and also translate it, to prove if this supposed "One Hit Death" text isn't total garbage, because it does sound like it is. Beady Long Bramble Grates Legs (talk) 00:39, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

There is this YouTube video, which appears to show the Treasure Hoard in the Japanese version, the name in this page is correct (no idea about the translation though). As for Olimar's notes, they say the following:

「昨日もほとんど眠れなかった……。自宅のせんべい布団がなつかしい。そういえば、この植物には強い導眠作用があるらしい。量をまちがえると永遠の眠りに落ちることもあるようだが…… ちょっと使ってみようか。」

which DeepL rendered (with a silly mistranslation fixed) as:

"I hardly slept at all last night. ...... I miss my thin bedding at home. By the way, I heard that this plant has a strong sleep inducing effect. If you use the wrong amount, you may fall into an eternal sleep. ...... I might give it a try."

I haven't checked the sales pitch though. Does this help? 2 B (talk) 13:48, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Okay, I have now. Here's what it says:

「不眠に苦しむ現代人にぴったり。時には永遠の眠りに落ちることも？強すぎる効き目の最凶導眠剤（デンジャラス・ドラッグ）。」

"Perfect for modern people who suffer from insomnia. Sometimes, you may even fall into an eternal sleep. A most dangerous sleep inducing drug with too strong an effect." (the "a most dangerous sleep inducing drug" part is indicated to be pronounced as the English words "dangerous drug")

So, what now? 2 B (talk) 16:57, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, by the way, I just checked the Switch version of the notes, since the treasure has a different design. The only differences are that Olimar's last sentence where he says he might try it is removed, and the ship, instead of mentioning a "strong effect", warns the buyer not to touch the treasure. 2 B (talk) 17:14, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

Sorry for necromancing this thread. I wanted to re-translated the whole paragraph to flow better in English, but I want your guy's approval on the quality of the translation first. These are my translations. Feel free to veto the whole idea if you don't think it's a suitable translation.

「昨日もほとんど眠れなかった……。自宅のせんべい布団がなつかしい。そういえば、この植物には強い導眠作用があるらしい。量をまちがえると永遠の眠りに落ちることもあるようだが…… ちょっと使ってみようか。」

"I haven't slept at all last night... I already missed sleeping on my hard bed. home. Come to think of it, this plant is supposed to have a strong sleep inducing effect. But I also heard that if you use it in the wrong dosage, you might fall into eternal slumber... I might give this a try."

「不眠に苦しむ現代人にぴったり。時には永遠の眠りに落ちることも？強すぎる効き目の最凶導眠剤（デンジャラス・ドラッグ）。」

"Perfect for those who are currently suffering from insomnia. Could this occasionally knock you into eternal sleepy time? This is a very potent sleep inducer (dangerous drug) indeed."

(BTW if I remember correctly, the reason why info about JPN version back then is a hoax is because most of them are taken out of context.)

- White Eye 日出づる雲

Looks good to me. 2 B (talk) 16:17, September 15, 2024 (EDT)