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===Sped up punching===
===Sped up punching===
{{glitch | reproducibility = High | consequences = Helpful | p2 = Yes | npcp2 = Yes | p2s = Yes |
{{glitch | reproducibility = High | consequences = Helpful | p2 = Yes | npcp2 = Yes
| effects = Makes a leader [[punch]] twice as fast.
| effects = Makes a leader [[punch]] twice as fast.
| howto = Simply punch while moving. Rotating in place also works. You should attack roughly twice as fast as if you were standing still.
| howto = Simply punch while moving. Rotating in place also works. You should attack roughly twice as fast as if you were standing still.
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| effects = Increases the number of Pikmin deaths without killing the corresponding Pikmin.
| effects = Increases the number of Pikmin deaths without killing the corresponding Pikmin.
| prerequisites = Be in a cave that has [[water]], [[poison]] or [[fire]] hazards, and have Pikmin that are not immune to those hazards.
| prerequisites = Be in a cave that has [[water]], [[poison]] or [[fire]] hazards, and have Pikmin that are not immune to those hazards.
| howto = When your Pikmin are drowning, choking or burning due to a water, poison or fire hazard, their deaths are accounted for exactly when they make their last scream. While they are too far gone to save by the [[whistle]] at this point, they aren't exactly dead yet. If you go into a [[geyser]] or hole, you can see them jump into it with the bubbles, gas, or flames on them, albeit alive. On the next sublevel, they'll be perfectly normal. However, when you complete the cave, you'll notice that their deaths were accounted for in the number of total deaths. If you do it several times throughout the sublevels, you can even have over 100 deaths in a single cave run.
| howto = When your Pikmin are choking or burning due to a water, poison or fire hazard, their deaths are accounted for exactly when they make their last scream. While they are too far gone to save by the [[whistle]] at this point, they aren't exactly dead yet. If you go into a [[geyser]] or hole, you can see them jump into it with the bubbles, gas, or flames on them, albeit alive. On the next sublevel, they'll be perfectly normal. However, when you complete the cave, you'll notice that their deaths were accounted for in the number of total deaths. If you do it several times throughout the sublevels, you can even have over 100 deaths in a single cave run.
| notes = This glitched number of deaths in the cave will also add to your Pikmin death [[Saved game|save file]] total. It's also possible for a Pikmin to catch on fire during the cutscene, if there's a geyser nearby. But this will neither kill the Pikmin or change the death count. This can also rarely happen if Pikmin die from falling off an abyss.{{cite youtube|e3QmXfhKPUs|showing Pikmin falling into the pit whilst on the sublevel jump cutscene}}
| notes = This glitched number of deaths in the cave will also add to your Pikmin death [[Saved game|save file]] total. It's also possible for a Pikmin to catch on fire during the cutscene, if there's a geyser nearby. But this will neither kill the Pikmin or change the death count. This can also rarely happen if Pikmin die from falling off an abyss.{{cite youtube|e3QmXfhKPUs|showing Pikmin falling into the pit whilst on the sublevel jump cutscene}}
| explanation = The game counts a death when a Pikmin makes its last cry, even though the creature's object still exists on the map. Normally, it's impossible to save it when it's doing its last cry, though. But when entering a hole or a geyser, the game forces all Pikmin objects to jump in, regardless of their state. When loading the next sublevel, the game creates new Pikmin objects, basing itself on the previous objects' maturity, color, etc., but not their state (choking/burning).
| explanation = The game counts a death when a Pikmin makes its last cry, even though the creature's object still exists on the map. Normally, it's impossible to save it when it's doing its last cry, though. But when entering a hole or a geyser, the game forces all Pikmin objects to jump in, regardless of their state. When loading the next sublevel, the game creates new Pikmin objects, basing itself on the previous objects' maturity, color, etc., but not their state (choking/burning).
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| effects = Causes a Pikmin to disappear without being counted as a death.
| effects = Causes a Pikmin to disappear without being counted as a death.
| howto = Be near a [[cave]] entrance hole, and have a Pikmin ready to be captured by an enemy. It can be a simple capture like a [[Swooping Snitchbug]]'s grab, or something more lethal, like a [[Bulborb|Red Bulborb]]'s bite. As soon as the Pikmin squeals, and before the Pikmin dies, enter the cave. The Pikmin will still be shown entering the cave in the cutscene, but will not be really present inside. When the day is over, the Pikmin count reveals that that Pikmin is gone, but not counted as a death.
| howto = Be near a [[cave]] entrance hole, and have a Pikmin ready to be captured by an enemy. It can be a simple capture like a [[Swooping Snitchbug]]'s grab, or something more lethal, like a [[Bulborb|Red Bulborb]]'s bite. As soon as the Pikmin squeals, and before the Pikmin dies, enter the cave. The Pikmin will still be shown entering the cave in the cutscene, but will not be really present inside. When the day is over, the Pikmin count reveals that that Pikmin is gone, but not counted as a death.
| notes = A similar glitch can happen in caves; if the player throws a non-yellow Pikmin onto an electric wire, and quickly exits from the cave as it jolts back, but before dying, the Pikmin will disappear, but will not add to the death count.
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===Negative Pikmin born===
===Negative Pikmin born===
{{glitch | reproducibility = High | consequences = Harmless | p2 = Yes | npcp2 = ? | p2s = Yes
{{glitch | reproducibility = High | consequences = Harmless | p2 = Yes | npcp2 = ?
| effects = Saves a negative number of Pikmin born to the high scores menu.
| effects = Saves a negative number of Pikmin born to the high scores menu.
| prerequisites = Have not lost five or more Pikmin of the type you're saving the score for.
| prerequisites = Have not lost five or more Pikmin of the type you're saving the score for.
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===Titan Dweevil treasure glitch===
===Titan Dweevil treasure glitch===
{{game help|p2|Get more info on this. Specifically, what happens if you beat up the treasure afterwards?}}
{{game help|p2|Get more info on this. Specifically, what happens if you beat up the treasure afterwards?}}
{{glitch | reproducibility = Medium | consequences = Depends | p2 = Yes | npcp2 = ? | youtube = RXlmnr_IpBA | vcaption = Demonstration of the glitch, at 4:30 (unavailable video).
{{glitch | reproducibility = Medium | consequences = Depends | p2 = Yes | npcp2 = ? | youtube = RXlmnr_IpBA | vcaption = Demonstration of the glitch, at 4:30.
| effects = Makes a treasure re-appear in the [[Titan Dweevil]]'s hands.
| effects = Makes a treasure re-appear in the [[Titan Dweevil]]'s hands.
| howto = Beat up one of the Titan Dweevil's treasures until it's nearly detached. When the creature is just about to use that treasure, [[ultra-bitter spray|petrify it]]. Attack the treasure and detach it before the boss breaks free.
| howto = Beat up one of the Titan Dweevil's treasures until it's nearly detached. When the creature is just about to use that treasure, [[ultra-bitter spray|petrify it]]. Attack the treasure and detach it before the boss breaks free.
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===Cave entrance leader mixup===
===Cave entrance leader mixup===
{{glitch | reproducibility = High | consequences = Harmless | p2 = Yes | npcp2 = Yes | p2s = Yes | demonstration = [https://youtu.be/DtPkOwWds60&t=237 Youtube video at 3:57]
{{main|Cave#Cave entrance leader mixup}}
| effects = When entering the first sublevel of a cave in ''Pikmin 2'', the game may or may not switch the player's active leader.  
When entering the first sublevel of a cave, the game may or may not switch the player's active leader. It depends on the last leader the player used to jump to a non-first sublevel.
| prerequisites = None
| howto = Enter the last sublevel in a cave, and then enter the first sublevel of a different cave with a different leader.
| notes = This does not happen when the player goes from one sublevel to the next. [[Challenge Mode (Pikmin 2)|Challenge Mode]] uses a different behavior, without a glitch, and that the default value of the variable is 0, meaning that at the start of the game, before the player goes from one sublevel to the next, the game will make Olimar the active leader when entering a cave.
| explanation = In order to decide what leader to turn active whenever a sublevel is entered (be it the first or not), the game reads a variable in memory. This variable is also saved onto the [[Saved game|save game data]] and loaded from it. It is set whenever the player goes from one sublevel to the next, which explains why, when the next sublevel is loaded, the game selects the correct leader. However, this variable never gets set when the cave itself is entered. This means that when the first sublevel is finished loading, the game reads the variable, and uses an outdated value, last updated when a sublevel hole was entered.
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===Cave hole glitch===
===Cave hole glitch===
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{{glitch | reproducibility = High | consequences = Harmless | p2 = ? | npcp2 = Yes
{{glitch | reproducibility = High | consequences = Harmless | p2 = ? | npcp2 = Yes
| effects = Makes nectar float in mid-air.
| effects = Makes nectar float in mid-air.
| howto = Cause a drop of [[nectar]], such as one from a petrified enemy, to fall on top of a pile of sticks used to build a [[bridge]]. If the sticks are removed from under the drop by building the bridge, the drop will remain suspended in the air. Pikmin can be made to drink the nectar by throwing them at it, and they will fall back to the ground once the nectar is all used up. A good place to do this is in [[Awakening Wood]] with a [[Yellow Wollywog]] near the bridges.
| howto = Cause a drop of nectar, such as one from a petrified enemy, to fall on top of a pile of sticks used to build a bridge. If the sticks are removed from under the drop by building the bridge, the drop will remain suspended in the air. Pikmin can be made to drink the nectar by throwing them at it, and they will fall back to the ground once the nectar is all used up. A good place to do this is in [[Awakening Wood]] with a [[Yellow Wollywog]] near the bridges.
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| prerequisites = Have the Pileated Snagret on the Piklopedia.
| prerequisites = Have the Pileated Snagret on the Piklopedia.
| howto = On the [[Menu#Area selection|area selection screen]], place the ship over the [[Valley of Repose]]. Enter the Piklopedia and open the Pileated Snagret's file. The creature spawns on top of a snowy hill, but there's a chance that it will be unable to emerge from the ground, instead becoming stuck inside the patch of snow. If it doesn't happen, try making it burrow and emerge more often. It can also be able to move freely while inside the snow, and can be driven to fall into the [[pit]] by luring it with [[pikpik carrot]]s. Another way to make it stuck is to lure it towards the part with grass; it might be unable to go back to its original place, all the while hopping endlessly while trying to go up the hill.
| howto = On the [[Menu#Area selection|area selection screen]], place the ship over the [[Valley of Repose]]. Enter the Piklopedia and open the Pileated Snagret's file. The creature spawns on top of a snowy hill, but there's a chance that it will be unable to emerge from the ground, instead becoming stuck inside the patch of snow. If it doesn't happen, try making it burrow and emerge more often. It can also be able to move freely while inside the snow, and can be driven to fall into the [[pit]] by luring it with [[pikpik carrot]]s. Another way to make it stuck is to lure it towards the part with grass; it might be unable to go back to its original place, all the while hopping endlessly while trying to go up the hill.
| explanation = Snagrets are programmed to burrow up anywhere there is a flat collision plane, meaning the collision below the hill is likely causing the Pileated Snagret to pop up there instead of above the hill.
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| prerequisites = Have the [[Napsack]].
| prerequisites = Have the [[Napsack]].
| howto = When {{button|gc|x|wii|c}} is held, the leader makes a small bounce before lying down. If this bounce happens just as a boulder lands on the leader, there's a chance he might jump quite high in the air. The easiest way to pull it off is to enter the [[Cave of Pain]]. You should hold the button one and a half seconds after the shadow of the boulder appears. If you get hurt, that means you have to press it sooner. If you just [[lie down]], that means you pressed it too soon. For reference, check the timings on the notes.
| howto = When {{button|gc|x|wii|c}} is held, the leader makes a small bounce before lying down. If this bounce happens just as a boulder lands on the leader, there's a chance he might jump quite high in the air. The easiest way to pull it off is to enter the [[Cave of Pain]]. You should hold the button one and a half seconds after the shadow of the boulder appears. If you get hurt, that means you have to press it sooner. If you just [[lie down]], that means you pressed it too soon. For reference, check the timings on the notes.
| notes = This trick can be used to jump over some obstacles. The further away from the center of the boulder, the farther the distance of the jump. The closer to the center of the timing window you start lying down, the higher the jump. Via testing, it's concluded that the button must be pressed between the {{frames|41}}st [[frame]] after the shadow appears ({{frames|40}} frames of the shadow's existence) and the {{frames|46}}th ({{frames|45}} frames of the shadow's existence). This results in a window of {{frames|6}} frames. If you make the leader wake up, he will lose all of his momentum and fall to the ground, without you being able to control his descent.
| notes = This trick can be used to jump over some obstacles. The further away from the center of the boulder, the farther the distance of the jump. The closer to the center of the timing window you start lying down, the higher the jump. Via testing, it's concluded that the button must be pressed between the {{frames|41}}st [[frame]] after the the shadow appears ({{frames|40}} frames of the shadow's existence) and the {{frames|46}}th ({{frames|45}} frames of the shadow's existence). This results in a window of {{frames|6}} frames. If you make the leader wake up, he will lose all of his momentum and fall to the ground, without you being able to control his descent.
| explanation = The small bounce a leader makes must be programmed as an actual, physics-abiding jump, instead of a simple animation. This would explain why when something that's meant to cause knockback interferes with a jump makes a glitchy jump happen, as the game wasn't ready to handle that particular scenario. Alternately, it has to do with how the leader should've been knocked back, but the Napsack partially stops that, and blocks all damage, again, causing confusion in the physics engine.
| explanation = The small bounce a leader makes must be programmed as an actual, physics-abiding jump, instead of a simple animation. This would explain why when something that's meant to cause knockback interferes with a jump makes a glitchy jump happen, as the game wasn't ready to handle that particular scenario. Alternately, it has to do with how the leader should've been knocked back, but the Napsack partially stops that, and blocks all damage, again, causing confusion in the physics engine.
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