Ah, actually, I was going to ask for one of these when the treasures were done. As if I'm going to be the one to finish them though, huh? Anyway, about the template, should we include weight and max. Pikmin like we have for the treasures? Also, what about treasure value and no. of seeds produced? Of course, those last two boxes would probably end of making a lot of N/A's for enemies that appeared in both games, but only in caves in Pikmin 2. I dunno, just a suggestion. I don't suppose pellets would have a box either, seeing as how it's usually random. —Jimbo Jambo
Right, in addition to that... There's no image size box, and the Size box that does exist (I'm assuming it's the enemy's length?) merely lists the areas the enemy appears in (if no size is specified, that is, as it just says {{{areas}}} in the actual template). Also, is the Attacks box really necessary? Most enemies will kill your Pikmin, and just about all of them shake Pikmin off when swarmed, so I'm just not sure it's really useful information. —Jimbo Jambo
- Yep, the {{{areas}}} under size was an error, and I renamed the second size to 'height'. I'm not sure what should be there and what shouldn't; I only copied it from the pages that have the infobox code actually on the page. If there's a decision made on those, you can add it to the template; otherwise, put the outcome here and I'll put in in the template if you're not sure how.GP
Prez, I noticed you've started putting the template onto enemy pages. What do you think about what should and shouldn't be included? —Jimbo Jambo
- Great question. I find the size awkward. How are we supposed to know the exact height of all enemies? That should be removed, but the rest is fine in my opinion. Although, what does the first "size" do? I though it would manage the size of the picture, but that doesn't seem to be the case.--Prezintenden
- Oh, sorry, now I took the time to read your old comments. Apperantly I added the second "size" without knowing it no-longer existed. I'm in a hurry at the moment, so I'll change that later on today.--Prezintenden
- I thought it was really neat to get an idea of exactly how big the creatures were, and I had assumed whoever came up with them just compared them to the size of Pikmin, but you're probably right. Unless it's from an official source (or the measurements were ridiculously accurate), it's not really good information. What about weight and seed/treasure value and stuff? And do you think the Attacks should stay? —Jimbo Jambo
- No to the attacks, they are usually explained in the articles. Yes to the seeds and treasure value. I hope we don't have to go throwevery creature in the onions and see how many we get. Or is this shown in the Piklopedia (in-game)?
Man, why didn't I think of this earlier? I wouldn't have had to write as many enemy notes. Anyway, this FAQ has at least all the Pokos.--Prezintenden
- Treasure values should be no problem. They're all listed in the Piklopedia. Weights and seeds produced might take a little more work. Instead of doing them one-by-one, just write down the numbers as you encounter creatures in the game. Remember also that a lot of cave-only enemies also appear in 2P Battle mode and do have seed values. Of course, no reason why one person should have to do it all. We can divide work up once the template is figured out.
- What I'm more worried about is how to squeeze in the most information possible without cluttering he infobox. For enemies that don't produce seeds (no corpse, only found in caves), should we write N/A, or should we just not include it? And what about differences between Pikmin 1 and 2? Snagrets drop pellets in Pikmin 1. Should we just give the number of seeds produced for Pikmin 2, or should we specify the lack of a corpse in Pikmin 1? Ooh, and what about enemies that cannot be defeated (Flint Beetles, ect.)? I mean, infoboxes should be short and informative at the same time, but there's a lot of variable information. Just N/A could potentially mean a number of things. —Jimbo Jambo
- The only real alternatives possible are "N/A - no corpse" and "N/A - not above ground". Are there actually any differences between Pikmin 1 and 2 for the body's size itself? Because we'd just use the Pikmin 2 Burrowing Snagret head weight if there is no head in Pikmin 1. I'm just about to remove height from the infobox; I'll leave the rest.
- Corpseless enemies can end up producing a lot of Pikmin if they drop pellets. I think we should at least specify what they drop, if anything (like N/A (Pellets) or something). And I do kind of doubt there are any huge weight differences (closest thing I can think of is max. number of carriers for Sheargrubs), but if one is found, we can easily just slap both weights on there. While I would disagree with you on Attacks, it doesn't really hurt to have it, especially if someone finds it useful, so I guess that stays.
| Infobox enemy | |
|---|---|
| [[Image:{{{image}}}|{{{size}}}]] | |
| Scientific Name | {{{name}}} |
| Family | {{{family}}} |
| Areas | {{{areas}}} |
| Underground Areas | {{{underground}}} |
| Weight | {{{weight}}} |
| Max. Carriers | {{{max_pikmin}}} Pikmin |
| Seed Worth | {{{seeds}}} seeds |
| Treasure Value | {{{value}}} pokos |
| Attacks | {{{attacks}}} |
How's this? I went with the phrase "Seed Worth" because it only took up one line. If that's no good then we can always change it. So anyway, I checked out the treasure infobox and I can't seem to figure out what makes certain boxes mandatory and others not. I'd really rather not have Treasure Value and Underground Areas appear on Pikmin 1 enemy pages. There are only like five, though, so I guess it's not a big deal if we can't do anything about it.
- That's fine. I can make rows do that with the {{#ifeq:text|text2|outcome1|outcome2}} code. I'll see if I can get this template completed soon.GP
- Okay, if we have to add max Pikmin, I would like to know how we sort out differences. Creatures such as Sheargrubs can be pulled with 2 Pikmin in Pikmin (a fraction is even shown), but with only one in Pikmin 2. How do we write that?
|weight=2 in Pikmin, 1 in Pikmin 2
It seems a little long. Should it stay this way, or do we add a another line?--Prezintenden