Talk:E-Reader

What is this

Um...what. What is/are the e-reader thing(s)? This does not make it clear to me, and I can't rewrite it if I have no idea what's going on. Anyone have the knowledge/want to rewrite it themselves?G P

It was a "Card Game" like Pokemon cards and you would hook a scanner to a Gameboy and swipe your Pokemon/Pikmin/Etc. and it would give content like sounds and stuff, there was even a Mario Party-E where it would give minigames... I'm ~Lonely Turret~ And I approve this message.

What does the article mean, 'supposed to unlock' in Pikmin 2? You said Game Boy - was it only for GB games, or was this a whole separate 'game' that linked to the GCN, or what? And it was never implemented, or just never in Pikmin 2?G P

It was only on GB so I figure it was mini-games based on Pikmin 2 for the Gameboy, I'll upload a Pokemon E-Reader picture, m'kay? And it wasn't a game it was a scanner and you swipe the cards and it would temporarily put the data on the E-Reader... I'm ~Lonely Turret~ And I approve this message.

Okay... I'm ~Lonely Turret~ And I approve this message.

BUMP!!! I'm ~Lonely Turret~ And I approve this message.

Ugh. After my holiday.G P

I dunno what you mean by that so... errr... um... yeh... I'm ~Lonely Turret~ And I approve this message.

What else could a holiday be? I'll get to it after looking through the rest of the recent changes...G P

Useful info

http://tcrf.net/Pikmin_2/Version_Differences#E-Reader_Support
The information here may be useful. In short, the article explains that only JP-NTSC Pikmin 2 had e-reader support, and it's got some screenshots and basic info from or regarding each of the small mini-games associated with the Pikmin2 e-reader cards. (Also explains the differences between models in various versions.) vc^TC

Notes about the Japanese in the e-cards

While trying to fix the size info of the enemies as they're listed on the e-cards, I reached conclusions about what the different words mean. Thing is, they're so tiny and vague that it was really hard to understand what the card meant. So before I forget – and because I'm sure this'll be helpful in the future – here's what I have:

体長 = length (body length)
直径 = diameter
脚幅 = leg span
高さ = height
羽幅 = wing span
?丈 = roller length (not quite sure, but similar-looking words mean "cylinder" and "wheel" and such, so it's likely the rollers)
約 = approximately

— {Espyo^T} 10:26, 24 July 2015 (EDT)

Trivia Change

I think we should add that Super Mario Maker also has Pikmin sprites, but I'm not sure how to reword it. --Captains, dismissed! (talk) 02:16, 5 November 2015 (EST)

Missing backs

About 20 e reader cards a missing backs. Pikifan4 (talk) 11:47, 28 January 2016 (EST)

CreativeSushi, the uploader, says he doesn't know what backs those cards have. Nobody else does either. — {Espyo^T} 16:00, 22 January 2016 (EST)

I got an idea, it's called e-bay. Also None of the cards are Yellow, one is tan, a few Purple and White and a majority Red and Blue Pikifan4 (talk) 13:02, 27 January 2016 (EST)

There's a missing idea on that idea, though: money. — {Espyo^T} 12:45, 27 January 2016 (EST)

Well, I probably will be able to buy a SINGLE e card for data.

Maybe you can, but CreativeSushi already spent quite a lot of money on the cards that he did. Other people don't buy them because they don't exactly come cheap, and getting an e-card is so low-priority that nobody bothers to even try. — {Espyo^T} 14:54, 27 January 2016 (EST)

Well, I wan to clean up a bunch of minor things and this is one of them. But first, the 2 Player Battle, Mission and Challenge (Pikmin 2) and Bingo Battle. Pikifan4 (talk) 14:03, 28 January 2016 (EST)

Renaming proposal

I propose that this article be renamed (moved) from "e-Reader" to "Pikmin Puzzle Cards". This is because the main subject of the article isn't the device, it's the Pikmin-themed cards and the minigames they come with. This wouldn't require changing the article that much, as only the first paragraph is about the e-Reader; it's really only the introduction that would have to change a lot. And it would have the benefits of putting this really interesting and little-known information in an easier-to-find place (it could be added to the gallery in Category:Games for example). What do you think? — Soprano_(talk) 17:59, January 15, 2022 (EST)

After some time, I guess I realized I'm neutral on this topic. We should wait for more opinions. — {Espyo^T} 14:10, March 7, 2022 (EST)

The first issue with renaming this article is what to rename it to. And this is actually a really difficult problem because of how many names apply to this thing. There are:

Pikmin Puzzle Card e+ (ピクミンパズルカードe+^?): the name of the card packs
Plucking Pikmin (ひっこぬきピクミン^?): one of the three games
Marching Pikmin (てくてくピクミン^?): one of the three games
Connecting Pikmin (つなげてピクミン^?): one of the three games
e-Reader (カードeリーダー^?): the piece of technology needed to play the games
Pikmin 2-e (ピクミン2e^?): a name I've seen used for the expansion as a whole, though I can't find an original source for this

The name we pick for the article depends on the angle we want to come at it from. Currently it's the technology, but it should it be the cards, the three separate puzzle games, or the concept of the expansion? — Soprano_(talk) 00:40, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

I'm going to try and write part of an introduction to this article if its title was Pikmin Puzzle Card e+.

Pikmin Puzzle Card e+ (ピクミンパズルカードe+^?) is a series of collectible Pikmin-themed cards that can be used to play special minigames with the Japanese version of Pikmin 2. Only available in Japan, these cards come in packs of 3 that could be bought from stores, and there are also a few special promotional cards with different distribution methods.

There are 3 types of puzzle minigames that these cards give access to, and each card contains a dot code that gives access to a specific puzzle. To play the minigames, a GameCube and Gameboy Advance are required, along with a device called an e-Reader+ and a Gameboy-GameCube connector cable. (The GameCube, e-Reader+, and copy of Pikmin 2 must be of the Japanese version.) By scanning the card with the e-Reader+, the minigame can be played on the GameBoy Advance.

That could definitely be written better, but it's a start. What do you think? — Soprano_(talk) 20:43, July 3, 2022 (EDT)

Seems all right. — {Espyo^T} 09:37, August 13, 2022 (EDT)

Actually, I'm not sure now whether Pikmin Puzzle Card e+ is the right name to use. Because if you look at the logo, the main part of the name is ピクミンパズル (Pikmin Puzzle), and the カードe+ (Card e+) is below and to the side. カードe+ is the Japanese name for the e-Reader+ (the device needed to play these games), so calling the games Pikmin Puzzle Card e+ would be like calling them Pikmin Puzzle e-Reader+, and it's weird to have the name of the technology in the name of the game. But would calling the article Pikmin Puzzle be accurate? It's so hard to know if we're doing the right thing with these names when we don't speak Japanese... — Soprano_(talk) 18:17, August 13, 2022 (EDT)

Splitting proposal

OK, here's the problem: there is no name that covers all the things that this article describes. The e-Reader is the piece of technology. Pikmin Puzzle is the name of the card packs. Plucking Pikmin, Marching Pikmin, and Connecting Pikmin are each minigames that have no connection with eachother other than being accessed from the same menu in Pikmin 2, which is just titled "カードe+". So here's a possible solution. Why not have separate articles for each of the 5 things? This article would describe the technology and how the minigames are loaded from the GameCube to the GameBoy Advance. Another article would contain the list of cards and related objects. And 3 articles would describe the minigames in greater detail. This isn't ideal because there isn't a clear separation between these topics, but I think it's better than the current situation of having all the topics under an article title that doesn't describe most of them well. Thoughts? — Soprano_(talk) 21:20, March 10, 2023 (EST)

An article just for the device would have information available elsewhere on the internet, and would be no longer than a few paragraphs. An article on just the cards seems like a waste. Each mini-game having its own article sounds good, but only after we actually have enough to say about each of them, like a description of each stage. "e-Reader" still seems like the best title because it's the main topic under which all of the other topics fall. The Pikmin cards were made for the e-Reader. The Pikmin 2 mini-games were made for the e-Reader. It's a bit like how our Nintendo 3DS article works. — {Espyo^T} 11:05, March 12, 2023 (EDT)

I still don't think "e-Reader" is the best title for the article, because it's not what most of the article is about. This article is not like the Nintendo 3DS article, which is a hub for other articles and for topics not large enough to justify their own article. I actually think that if this article was split, it would be even more like the Nintendo 3DS article. It would be a hub article explaining the technology, linking to other articles (the article about the cards and the 3 minigame articles), and describing topics that don't belong in their own article (the Animal Crossing section). Giving the minigames their own articles could also motivate people to cover them in more detail. — Soprano_(talk) 17:02, March 12, 2023 (EDT)