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:What do you mean Submerged Castle is the only one with no variations? I'm sure there are many more cave songs with no variation. Also, you wrote "area song" instead of "cave song", so maybe you meant something else? And I'm pretty sure the combinations thing isn't right. For one thing, some are mutually exclusive (Olimar/Louie, day/sunset), others can be applied on top of the current track (working, low health, low Pikmin), and others are both (enemy/combat are mutually exclusive AND applied on top of the current track). That piece of trivia needs to be thought out more carefully. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:51, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | :What do you mean Submerged Castle is the only one with no variations? I'm sure there are many more cave songs with no variation. Also, you wrote "area song" instead of "cave song", so maybe you meant something else? And I'm pretty sure the combinations thing isn't right. For one thing, some are mutually exclusive (Olimar/Louie, day/sunset), others can be applied on top of the current track (working, low health, low Pikmin), and others are both (enemy/combat are mutually exclusive AND applied on top of the current track). That piece of trivia needs to be thought out more carefully. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:51, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::So I did some testing to try and get better results. | |||
::The Submerged Castle doesn't ever seem to change. (Including low health and low Pikmin) This makes it the only song out of both the the overworld and cave songs to never have a variation. (i.e.: working, battle, ect.) | ::The Submerged Castle doesn't ever seem to change. (Including low health and low Pikmin) This makes it the only song out of both the the overworld and cave songs to never have a variation. (i.e.: working, battle, ect.) | ||
::Most of my testing was trying to figure out what overworld song variations could play on top of each other. This is how any of the overworld songs in the game can play at any given time (Save for the Valley of Repose): | ::Most of my testing was trying to figure out what overworld song variations could play on top of each other. This is how any of the overworld songs in the game can play at any given time (Save for the Valley of Repose): | ||
::(Olimar/Louie)(Normal/Sunset)(Near Enemy/Battle/None)(Working/None)(Spiderwort/None)(Low health/None)(Low Pikmin/None) | |||
::The best number I have for ''how many ways you can hear the same overworld song'' is 120. But I got that number through what I'm sure was some very botched math. Someone else who knows what they're doing should probably do it instead. [[User:Burrhead2|Burrhead2]] ([[User talk:Burrhead2|talk]]) 16:32, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | ::The best number I have for ''how many ways you can hear the same overworld song'' is 120. But I got that number through what I'm sure was some very botched math. Someone else who knows what they're doing should probably do it instead. [[User:Burrhead2|Burrhead2]] ([[User talk:Burrhead2|talk]]) 16:32, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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::::I'm fairly sure the treasure mix is a layer on top of the task mix. So that would give (Olimar/Louie) x (normal/sunset) x (enemy/combat/none) x (task/treasure/none) x (spiderwort/none) x (normal/low health) x (normal/low Pikmin), for a total of 288 versions. But since the low Pikmin version skips random notes, doesn't that mean that the possible variation is technically far higher? And what about the Valley of Repose with its lack of Burgeoning Spiderworts; would the trivia point mention that? This is a difficult one to define. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:26, October 18, 2021 (EDT) | ::::I'm fairly sure the treasure mix is a layer on top of the task mix. So that would give (Olimar/Louie) x (normal/sunset) x (enemy/combat/none) x (task/treasure/none) x (spiderwort/none) x (normal/low health) x (normal/low Pikmin), for a total of 288 versions. But since the low Pikmin version skips random notes, doesn't that mean that the possible variation is technically far higher? And what about the Valley of Repose with its lack of Burgeoning Spiderworts; would the trivia point mention that? This is a difficult one to define. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:26, October 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:::::Maybe it can be something like ''Did you know that the four main areas in Pikmin 2 (save for the Valley of Repose) have X amount of ways the song can play?'' Or maybe ''Did you know that the Awakening Wood, Perplexing Pool, and Wistful Wild have X amount of ways the their songs can play? And that the Valley of Repose only has X?'' [[User:Burrhead2|Burrhead2]] ([[User talk:Burrhead2|talk]]) 14:33, October 19, 2021 (EDT) | :::::Maybe it can be something like ''Did you know that the four main areas in Pikmin 2 (save for the Valley of Repose) have X amount of ways the song can play?'' Or maybe ''Did you know that the Awakening Wood, Perplexing Pool, and Wistful Wild have X amount of ways the their songs can play? And that the Valley of Repose only has X?'' [[User:Burrhead2|Burrhead2]] ([[User talk:Burrhead2|talk]]) 14:33, October 19, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::::::That's a bit too long for a DYK. And besides, the Valley of Repose does have a Spiderwort variation, it just doesn't play. It's not misleading to say "Did you know that area themes in ''Pikmin 2'' have 288 possible variations?", though it does leave out the element of randomness. Alternatively, the trivia point could be "Did you know that there are 288 ways for ''Pikmin 2'' to play its area themes?", though that's a bit more confusing. | |||
::::::As for your other trivia ideas, is it right to say that ''Pikmin 2'' has 4 versions of the end of day theme? It really only has 3, plus the extinction theme. So saying "4 versions" is a bit misleading. I think it could be stated better as "Did you know that ''Pikmin 2''{{'s}} end of day theme is different depending on the number of treasures collected?" The Submerged Castle one is good, though it should say "cave theme" instead of "area song". — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:43, October 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||