Talk:Stubborn rocks

i like the brick wall :D – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fernando Urista • (talk) • (contribs)

me too ==:3

— CrazyCow

Name?

The TCRF page for Pikmin 3 lists unused lock-on names for various objects, and one of them is "Stubborn Rocks", referring to this wall (according to this). Considering the other unused names there ("Bomb Rock", "Electrode", "Sleeping Beauty") tend to be consistent with other sources, could this page be moved to "Stubborn Rocks"? 2 B (talk) 07:29, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

I don't think "Stubborn Rocks" is a very good name for this obstacle, because it doesn't describe it very well. Since the name is unused, we don't have to use it on the wiki, so I think we should continue to use "Brick wall". We could note this unused name on the article though. — Soprano_(talk) 19:54, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

I'm not really sure what about "Stubborn Rocks" doesn't describe the obstacle well. If anything "Brick wall" doesn't really describe the obstacle well since the wall isn't made out of bricks, it's made out of rocks that vaguely resemble bricks that doesn't go down like traditional walls. Twins1105 (talk) 20:05, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Unused internal names generally take priority over purely fan-made ones. For instance, kakureimo is referred to as such because it's technically the most official, even if "yellow slug" might be more convenient. Likewise, the names of songs in Pikmin 2 are also based on their internal names (unless they're arbitrary like the ones that say "new"), even if the fan-made ones are more convenient. — CrazyCow 20:32, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

the unused enemy is, well, unused. The difference here is that the stubborn rocks are an obstacle which is easily seen in normal gameplay. It's unfair to expect a reader to know this common obstacle's unused name, as its impossible to see legitimately. Which is why we prefer unofficial, simple descriptive names in these cases. PopitTart (talk) 20:38, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

An example of using an unofficial name instead of an unused name is Pikmin 4's hazard generators. These have unused names, but using those names would make things difficult on the wiki; for example, "gaseous spring" doesn't describe the poison pipes in Pikmin 2, "electrode" is the same as a Pikmin 3 object that functions very differently, and the terms "geyser" and "air geyser" are used to describe the hazardous water geyser and the helpful geyser that propels the leader upwards respectively, which would be difficult to document considering the helpful geysers in previous games use water. Since we don't have to use these names, it's easier to use unofficial names. — Soprano_(talk) 21:41, July 11, 2024 (EDT)