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::No,  it is a screenshot, from the Dojo, when a load of them were in the update.  I think it's from the SSE, as I remember someone saying you can see the ship if you look back on one stage.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 10:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::No,  it is a screenshot, from the Dojo, when a load of them were in the update.  I think it's from the SSE, as I remember someone saying you can see the ship if you look back on one stage.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 10:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


:::Both wrong it is a picture of trophys (A new feature in BRAWL) I've done it before. The only stage where the ship is viewable is in SSE...[[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Both wrong it is a picture of trophys (A new feature in BRAWL) I've done it before. The only stage where the ship is viewable is in SSE...[[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


::::Didn't I just say SSE?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 18:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Didn't I just say SSE?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 18:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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::::You've done what before, looked at trophies? Trophies aren't new...or are you saying that you can set trophies up for pictures? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::::You've done what before, looked at trophies? Trophies aren't new...or are you saying that you can set trophies up for pictures? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}


:::::[[:Image:Pikmin_stuff_in_SSBB.jpg|Apparently so]].--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
:::::[[:File:Pikmin_stuff_in_SSBB.jpg|Apparently so]].--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}


::::::Yes you can set them up like that now. Srry for not phrasing hmmm...*correctly*[[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yes you can set them up like that now. Srry for not phrasing hmmm...*correctly*[[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


It's where you can set four trophies in a certain area.--[[User:Jayfeather113|<span style="color:green">Jayfeather</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Jayfeather113|<span style="color:blue">Sheikah</span>]]</sup> 22:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
It's where you can set four trophies in a certain area.--[[User:Jayfeather113|<span style="color:green">Jayfeather</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Jayfeather113|<span style="color:blue">Sheikah</span>]]</sup> 22:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


:Thanks for the help, I kinda supposed we figured that out 4 months ago, late much? '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:Thanks for the help, I kinda supposed we figured that out 4 months ago, late much? '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
== more articles ==
== more articles ==


I no you wont like this, but should we have more brawl articles? I mean, the wiki is practically dead at the moment.... (nothing to extreme, just the subspace emissery and 'distant planet' ect.) (sorry)
I no you wont like this, but should we have more brawl articles? I mean, the wiki is practically dead at the moment.... (nothing to extreme, just the subspace emissery and 'distant planet' ect.) (sorry)


:Errrr... Voteage Time! '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:Errrr... Voteage Time! '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::I don't think this really requires a vote unless more people agree with the idea. Anyway, I don't think we really need more Brawl articles. This is first and foremost a Pikmin wiki, and if we expanded into Brawl as part of the Pikmin series, we would need to go into all the worlds and the characters and then from there....well, I think it would just be too messy. It probably wouldn't even go that deep, but I still think it's a bit much. Mariowiki does that, but they're much bigger and can afford to have articles which aren't 100% Mario-related without them displacing the ones which are. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::I don't think this really requires a vote unless more people agree with the idea. Anyway, I don't think we really need more Brawl articles. This is first and foremost a Pikmin wiki, and if we expanded into Brawl as part of the Pikmin series, we would need to go into all the worlds and the characters and then from there....well, I think it would just be too messy. It probably wouldn't even go that deep, but I still think it's a bit much. Mariowiki does that, but they're much bigger and can afford to have articles which aren't 100% Mario-related without them displacing the ones which are. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
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::No. Olimar doesn't even actually do anything either than fail at killing R.O.B and getting owned by Captain Falcon. And seriously, Distant Planet? It's a stage. A small paragraph, that's all you need to say about it. And just because a Wiki has low activity doesn't mean it needs unnecessary articles.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::No. Olimar doesn't even actually do anything either than fail at killing R.O.B and getting owned by Captain Falcon. And seriously, Distant Planet? It's a stage. A small paragraph, that's all you need to say about it. And just because a Wiki has low activity doesn't mean it needs unnecessary articles.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}


:::Exactly! '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:::Exactly! '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


On the Metroid Wiki (which is also not even close to the size of Mario's), we just do articles directly related to the series. So in this way there would be a 'Distant Planet (stage)' article, and so on. The Pikmin wiki could probably go as far as making a page for Olimar as a fighter, though I only opted to list Samus's entire movelist from guides on each the Smash game's articles for each. Anyway, afterward we just lump them all into a "Super Smash Bros." category. Haven't had to go all out on any other character details like the Mario and Zelda wiki have, so it hasn't had the chance to overwhelm anything else. [[User:ChozoBoy|ChozoBoy]] 02:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
On the Metroid Wiki (which is also not even close to the size of Mario's), we just do articles directly related to the series. So in this way there would be a 'Distant Planet (stage)' article, and so on. The Pikmin wiki could probably go as far as making a page for Olimar as a fighter, though I only opted to list Samus's entire movelist from guides on each the Smash game's articles for each. Anyway, afterward we just lump them all into a "Super Smash Bros." category. Haven't had to go all out on any other character details like the Mario and Zelda wiki have, so it hasn't had the chance to overwhelm anything else. [[User:ChozoBoy|ChozoBoy]] 02:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


:I gues we could add (on Olimar's Page) a <nowiki>==In SSBB==</nowiki> section... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:I gues we could add (on Olimar's Page) a <nowiki>==In SSBB==</nowiki> section... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::Speaking of which, what do people think about having a section on the Pikmin articles briefly going over each Pikmin's abilities in Brawl? This concerns a recent edit. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::Speaking of which, what do people think about having a section on the Pikmin articles briefly going over each Pikmin's abilities in Brawl? This concerns a recent edit. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
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Just a comment; but from the data at Smashboards.com and my own personal experience from playing as Olimar since day 1 of Brawl's release, Pikmin Pluck does NOT vary the color of Pikmin plucked based on terrain, it's all random. Another note is that Olimar's Pikmin Chain is only the 2nd longest Tether Recovery in Brawl, losing out to Zero Suit Samus in that department. If you want, I can get specific battle data for each Pikmin color for each attack, and any properties each specific Pikmin has.
Just a comment; but from the data at Smashboards.com and my own personal experience from playing as Olimar since day 1 of Brawl's release, Pikmin Pluck does NOT vary the color of Pikmin plucked based on terrain, it's all random. Another note is that Olimar's Pikmin Chain is only the 2nd longest Tether Recovery in Brawl, losing out to Zero Suit Samus in that department. If you want, I can get specific battle data for each Pikmin color for each attack, and any properties each specific Pikmin has.


And an unrelated side note: Olimar can KO R.O.B. just as easy as R.O.B. can KO him, and Captain Falcon is quite easy for Olimar as well.[[User:Hisoka_Kazemeijin|<font color="Green">'''Kaze'''</font>]][[Image:Smilie_v2_Pikmin_Yellow.gif]] 07:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
And an unrelated side note: Olimar can KO R.O.B. just as easy as R.O.B. can KO him, and Captain Falcon is quite easy for Olimar as well.[[User:Hisoka_Kazemeijin|<font color="Green">'''Kaze'''</font>]][[File:Smilie_v2_Pikmin_Yellow.gif]] 07:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


:Yes all that is true... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
:Yes all that is true... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
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Is there any real reason that the pikmin in SSBB look so horible in terms of grahpics during gameplay?
Is there any real reason that the pikmin in SSBB look so horible in terms of grahpics during gameplay?
== revamp ==
May I revamp this article so it has more of a general feel to it? The way it is, it is basically just a Pikmin-only explanation, with the only exception being the first paragraph. I understand that this is a Pikmin wiki, but would it hurt to list every other character in it, or include a picture of the box art? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]] 16:09, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:Adding more info is not recommended, specially for a Smash Bros. article. The Smash Bros. series gather tons of Nintendo franchises. Many of those franchises have a wiki of their own. Normally, they'll all have an article about Super Smash Bros./Super Smash Bros. Melee/Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now, imagine that instead of having franchise specific info, they had a page full of information. It'll all be the same information spread over tons of wikis. Imagine Mario wiki, Donkey Kong wiki, WarioWare wiki, Zelda wiki, Metroid wiki, Ice Climber wiki, IcarusPedia, Kirby wiki, Pikipedia, Arwingpedia, F-Zero wiki, Bulbapedia, Fire Emblem wiki, EarthBound wiki, Sonic News Network and Metal Gear Wiki (and I'm not even counting franchises that are only present as Assist Trophies and such) all have a '''complete''' article about it. The level of redundancy around the Internet would be BRUTAL. Besides, if the reader needs more info about Brawl, the link to SmashWiki's article is quickly accessed at the bottom of the page. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 17:17, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::Espyo is right, we don't need to. There are sites devoted entirely to Brawl. Anyone interested can go to one of those sites.
{{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}
:::Whose dumb idea was this, anyway?[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 18:14, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::It isn't that bad an idea, we just don't really need it. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}
:::::Shouldn't the boxart of all things at least be added? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]] 19:31, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::Done. The pointless trophy arrangement is now replaced with box art. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}
:::::::Useless, not needed= dumb idea. At least, that's how it is in my world.[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 15:51, 28 September 2010 (EDT)
== Comment by AeroBlaze777 on 1st July 2014 ==
I dunno how I feel about the captions for the Pictures on this page... Should we change em or keep em??? - [[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/AeroBlaze777|contribs]])
==Should We...==
Alot of the other wikis have a little more content than simply stating "This character is in smash and some trophies are here to". Heck, the Kirby wiki wasn't edited for two years until they reveled Kirby Planet Robobot and hasn't updated to show the new Splattoon wiki. Yet, the still detail atleast all the characters in every smash game. This wiki has more content, more pages, more activity, and is probably more well known. Still, we don't even have evidence on most characters in the in these games other than the Pikmin Content in the Smash games. [[User:Pikifan4|Pikifan4]] ([[User talk:Pikifan4|talk]]) 20:28, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
:The logic is that we're a wiki about Pikmin, so we should contain information about all things Pikmin. Having a list of all characters, stages, etc. would just be duplicating effort and for no good reason. We'd have the same information other wikis have, with different words, just retyping what was already said and taking up space and time. Plus if stuff gets updated (Smash 4 patches, for instance), we will also have to keep on our toes to update it too. We already have our canon content to worry about. Think of it this way: if I go to a wiki about a game, and want to read on the swimming mechanic, I don't want to learn about how swimming works in real life. If I do, I go to the Wikipedia article for swimming. When people want to learn about Smash games, Pikipedia is not the place they go to. And if they're already reading on Pikipedia and stumble into a Smash game, they can't reasonably expect us to have a large amount of information on the global content of Smash (again, like my swimming example). The link at the top to SmashWiki is a good way to rectify this too. That's my opinion on all of this, at least. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 05:05, 18 March 2016 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 15:48, July 4, 2024

Where is the first picture taken? 70.100.94.202

Looks like concept art, judging by Olimar's pose. —Jimbo Jambo
No, it is a screenshot, from the Dojo, when a load of them were in the update. I think it's from the SSE, as I remember someone saying you can see the ship if you look back on one stage.GP 10:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Both wrong it is a picture of trophys (A new feature in BRAWL) I've done it before. The only stage where the ship is viewable is in SSE...~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ 11:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Didn't I just say SSE?GP 18:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
You've done what before, looked at trophies? Trophies aren't new...or are you saying that you can set trophies up for pictures? —Jimbo Jambo
Apparently so.--Prezintenden
Yes you can set them up like that now. Srry for not phrasing hmmm...*correctly*~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ 21:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It's where you can set four trophies in a certain area.--JayfeatherSheikah 22:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I kinda supposed we figured that out 4 months ago, late much? I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

more articles[edit]

I no you wont like this, but should we have more brawl articles? I mean, the wiki is practically dead at the moment.... (nothing to extreme, just the subspace emissery and 'distant planet' ect.) (sorry)

Errrr... Voteage Time! I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
I don't think this really requires a vote unless more people agree with the idea. Anyway, I don't think we really need more Brawl articles. This is first and foremost a Pikmin wiki, and if we expanded into Brawl as part of the Pikmin series, we would need to go into all the worlds and the characters and then from there....well, I think it would just be too messy. It probably wouldn't even go that deep, but I still think it's a bit much. Mariowiki does that, but they're much bigger and can afford to have articles which aren't 100% Mario-related without them displacing the ones which are. —Jimbo Jambo
No. Olimar doesn't even actually do anything either than fail at killing R.O.B and getting owned by Captain Falcon. And seriously, Distant Planet? It's a stage. A small paragraph, that's all you need to say about it. And just because a Wiki has low activity doesn't mean it needs unnecessary articles.--Prezintenden
Exactly! I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

On the Metroid Wiki (which is also not even close to the size of Mario's), we just do articles directly related to the series. So in this way there would be a 'Distant Planet (stage)' article, and so on. The Pikmin wiki could probably go as far as making a page for Olimar as a fighter, though I only opted to list Samus's entire movelist from guides on each the Smash game's articles for each. Anyway, afterward we just lump them all into a "Super Smash Bros." category. Haven't had to go all out on any other character details like the Mario and Zelda wiki have, so it hasn't had the chance to overwhelm anything else. ChozoBoy 02:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I gues we could add (on Olimar's Page) a ==In SSBB== section... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
Speaking of which, what do people think about having a section on the Pikmin articles briefly going over each Pikmin's abilities in Brawl? This concerns a recent edit. —Jimbo Jambo
Maybe on this page, since purples are the most unique, but on others I wouldn't say it's worth an entire section; if anything, a mention in the introductory paragraph should be enough. Unless you can think of many things to say about the Pikmin in SSBB as individuals?GP
I can't... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Just a comment; but from the data at Smashboards.com and my own personal experience from playing as Olimar since day 1 of Brawl's release, Pikmin Pluck does NOT vary the color of Pikmin plucked based on terrain, it's all random. Another note is that Olimar's Pikmin Chain is only the 2nd longest Tether Recovery in Brawl, losing out to Zero Suit Samus in that department. If you want, I can get specific battle data for each Pikmin color for each attack, and any properties each specific Pikmin has.

And an unrelated side note: Olimar can KO R.O.B. just as easy as R.O.B. can KO him, and Captain Falcon is quite easy for Olimar as well.KazeSmilie v2 Pikmin Yellow.gif 07:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes all that is true... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

Needs moar pics and descriptions of moves. 68.39.16.71 01:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

More pics for the moves, maybe, but they're all right. Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

Is there any real reason that the pikmin in SSBB look so horible in terms of grahpics during gameplay?

revamp[edit]

May I revamp this article so it has more of a general feel to it? The way it is, it is basically just a Pikmin-only explanation, with the only exception being the first paragraph. I understand that this is a Pikmin wiki, but would it hurt to list every other character in it, or include a picture of the box art? Turtwig A 16:09, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

Adding more info is not recommended, specially for a Smash Bros. article. The Smash Bros. series gather tons of Nintendo franchises. Many of those franchises have a wiki of their own. Normally, they'll all have an article about Super Smash Bros./Super Smash Bros. Melee/Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Now, imagine that instead of having franchise specific info, they had a page full of information. It'll all be the same information spread over tons of wikis. Imagine Mario wiki, Donkey Kong wiki, WarioWare wiki, Zelda wiki, Metroid wiki, Ice Climber wiki, IcarusPedia, Kirby wiki, Pikipedia, Arwingpedia, F-Zero wiki, Bulbapedia, Fire Emblem wiki, EarthBound wiki, Sonic News Network and Metal Gear Wiki (and I'm not even counting franchises that are only present as Assist Trophies and such) all have a complete article about it. The level of redundancy around the Internet would be BRUTAL. Besides, if the reader needs more info about Brawl, the link to SmashWiki's article is quickly accessed at the bottom of the page. {EspyoT} 17:17, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
Espyo is right, we don't need to. There are sites devoted entirely to Brawl. Anyone interested can go to one of those sites.

Vol (Talk)

Whose dumb idea was this, anyway?Pikdude 18:14, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
It isn't that bad an idea, we just don't really need it. Vol (Talk)
Shouldn't the boxart of all things at least be added? Turtwig A 19:31, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
Done. The pointless trophy arrangement is now replaced with box art. Vol (Talk)
Useless, not needed= dumb idea. At least, that's how it is in my world.Pikdude 15:51, 28 September 2010 (EDT)

Comment by AeroBlaze777 on 1st July 2014[edit]

I dunno how I feel about the captions for the Pictures on this page... Should we change em or keep em??? - AeroBlaze777 (talkcontribs)


Should We...[edit]

Alot of the other wikis have a little more content than simply stating "This character is in smash and some trophies are here to". Heck, the Kirby wiki wasn't edited for two years until they reveled Kirby Planet Robobot and hasn't updated to show the new Splattoon wiki. Yet, the still detail atleast all the characters in every smash game. This wiki has more content, more pages, more activity, and is probably more well known. Still, we don't even have evidence on most characters in the in these games other than the Pikmin Content in the Smash games. Pikifan4 (talk) 20:28, 17 March 2016 (EDT)

The logic is that we're a wiki about Pikmin, so we should contain information about all things Pikmin. Having a list of all characters, stages, etc. would just be duplicating effort and for no good reason. We'd have the same information other wikis have, with different words, just retyping what was already said and taking up space and time. Plus if stuff gets updated (Smash 4 patches, for instance), we will also have to keep on our toes to update it too. We already have our canon content to worry about. Think of it this way: if I go to a wiki about a game, and want to read on the swimming mechanic, I don't want to learn about how swimming works in real life. If I do, I go to the Wikipedia article for swimming. When people want to learn about Smash games, Pikipedia is not the place they go to. And if they're already reading on Pikipedia and stumble into a Smash game, they can't reasonably expect us to have a large amount of information on the global content of Smash (again, like my swimming example). The link at the top to SmashWiki is a good way to rectify this too. That's my opinion on all of this, at least. — {EspyoT} 05:05, 18 March 2016 (EDT)