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==Might be of intrest==
This might be of intrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62Ku-Q-it0&feature=related [[User:68.39.16.71|68.39.16.71]] 06:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
This might be of intrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62Ku-Q-it0&feature=related [[User:68.39.16.71|68.39.16.71]] 06:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


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::Yes, primarily east Asia.  I sort of saw the maple leaves as Canadian, which I suppose is traditionally associated with them (note flag); but the overall idea does seem to be sort of Japanese in a way.  Mainly the bamboo-type stuff over the back; and those sort of trees seem like the stuff I've seen on TV set in Japan/China.  Likely as it's based on the creator's garden too - a lot of the game is probably based on a similar setting.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 16:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, primarily east Asia.  I sort of saw the maple leaves as Canadian, which I suppose is traditionally associated with them (note flag); but the overall idea does seem to be sort of Japanese in a way.  Mainly the bamboo-type stuff over the back; and those sort of trees seem like the stuff I've seen on TV set in Japan/China.  Likely as it's based on the creator's garden too - a lot of the game is probably based on a similar setting.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 16:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


:::Canadian leaves are diffrent then that... I would know... But I don't live in Canada [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Canadian leaves are diffrent then that... I would know... But I don't live in Canada [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


::::Lol at "Canadian leaves".--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} 13:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Lol at "Canadian leaves".--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} 13:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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:It's part of a big triangular ''YIELD'' sign. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:It's part of a big triangular ''YIELD'' sign. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}


::It is? '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
::It is? '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


you didn't notice?{{user:rocky0718/sig2}}
you didn't notice?{{user:rocky0718/sig2}}
:Noticed? Yes. Processed? No... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
In Japanese it's a stop sign, the stop signs are triangular there. But in the other versions it is a yield sign. [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]
:Cool... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
== Wistful Wild is two areas? ==
This has really confused me about the area: if you've played the first game it's easy to tell that Wistful Wild is a combination of The Final Trial and The Impact Site's maps. Olimar's Journal in Pikmin 2 indicates that the Wistful Wild is The Impact Site, but he does not relate any part of it to The Final Trial- does this mean that the part of the area that looks like The Final Trial is not actually The Final Trial, it just looks like it? [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]
:I think it might be too confusing if he actually suggested that this one area was a combination of two areas which weren't even close to each other geographically in the first game. Still, that's not to say that it isn't, since there's already plenty to suggest that that the planet has wild tectonic activity, or that Olimar was away from the planet for longer than most people assume. I just don't think that the fact he doesn't mention the relation should suggest that they aren't actually related, since I don't think he says anything about the Awakening Wood either. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::Well put '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:::Wait... tectonic activity? Proof? '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
::::Well, you've got underground areas suddenly shifting their layout around, and areas like the Perplexing Pool which, while it's clearly the same area from the first game, still looks notably different. Also, I believe tectonic activity is mentioned in the manual regarding caves...or was it talking about that "electro-magnetic activity" which is also supposedly the cause of the time stop? I don't actually remember.... {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:::::It was electro-magnetic time warping magic... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
::::::Heh, then maybe that's what drew the two areas together. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:::::::Time warping, dirt pulling magnetic fields? It's magic...magic...if you believe that it's so... it's magic... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
Hmm. Actually, he did mention that the Awakening Wood was the Forest of Hope. In one of the treasure descriptions he said something like "This forest has changed since the last time I visited it". As for the amount of time he was away, it must have actually been a while on the planet, even if the magnetic/electrical/temporal/magical currents on the planet caused it to change. [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]
:True... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
Crystal, I was kidding...although it does seem a lot more likely than magnetic fields having amazing time-warping properties. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:I was kidding too... >.> ...and singing... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
First off... Has anyone here heard of Einstein's theory of relativity? and second if it WAS tectonic activity wouldnt there be a huge mountain in the middle? or atleast a major hill? and just for the note the screen shot of the map shows what seems to be a pond or lake shore... Who knows what monsters lurk in there... *shudders and loads sub into dropship.*--[[User:Prof.pikmin|Prof.]] 00:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
And I forgot too mention I have no idea how einstein's theory effects the sub levels.--[[User:Prof.pikmin|Prof.]] 01:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:Errr... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}
I think it was tectonic activity. The underground areas Olimar explored were not new, they had ancient human objects and creature that thrived there. Seeing that Pikmin 2 has about the same amount of enimies on the map as Pikmin, I don't think there was a large migation. Those cave were old, not new, and if above ground acsess is only now being found, a shift must have occured. '''[[User:Ridly|<span style="color:darkBlue;">Ridly</span>]]  <small><sup>[[User Talk:Ridly|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Roar!</span>]]</sup></small>''' 21:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
== Lake/pond creatures ==
Ok, has anyone noticed the lake along the left side of the screenshot map? Ive been wondering what could inhabit it. Yeah this is
sorta random but still, I just want ideas of what might inhabit it. And please try to be a bit realistic.(pikmin realistic)
--[[User:Prof.pikmin|Prof.]] 20:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
errr... I see two lakes, both in the center soo... the lower one has a wollywog and the one above has didly squot... I mean nothing. it'sa PK king
:Maybe you're getting confused with the platform Hole of Heroes is on?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
The Final Trial can't be part of thi because one, the Final Trial part of this area is south of the Impact Site part, while in the first game it was north, and two, you can still see the island the Final Trial was on. [[User:Dockywho|Dockywho]] 15:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
No Green, If you look at the right side of the overview screen shot, you will see part of a pond/lake near the half-pipe slide, you will see it but what I wanna know is (Outside of the water dumples, bloysters, crawbsters, Crawmads, and any other aquatic creature thats in the piklopedia) what creatures live in it.
i can see three spots for onions. were u land by the berries and by the armored note and those walking plants[[User:Rpwyb|Rpwyb]]
Sorry, I try to keep brain use to a minimum during summer, I meant right side.--[[User:Prof.pikmin|Prof.]] 18:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
What I consider Ironic is VOR,AW and PP have overworld bosses and WW which was partially was once the Final Trial, the area with the final boss! Maybe the boss is in the lake? Empress Water Dumple?
oops forgot to sign --[[User:Loafy the Breadbug|Loafy the Breadbug]] 10:11, 25 September 2010 (EDT)
== The lake ==
Oh my God! I just had an epiphany regarding the mysterious out of bounds lake! Not only does the size look about right, but given it's relevant location to the Final Trial area and the Impact Site area, as well as it's location to the Awakening Wood (Aka Forest of Hope) and Perplexing Pool (Aka Distant Spring). Theoretically Wouldn't that put this mysterious lake in the location of........ The lost Forest Naval!?!!?!?!?!!?[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 11:21, 20 September 2017 (EDT)
:Out of bounds lake? What do you mean? &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 17:48, 20 September 2017 (EDT)
On the map, out of bounds between the landing site, and the area with the Dream Den, their is a large circle from the image it kind of looks like a lake......( but looking at it again, I suppose it could be a tree stump......) but because of it's location regarding the other areas, wouldn't that be about where the Forest Naval should be?[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 21:09, 20 September 2017 (EDT)
:Oh, that's just a stump. Anyway, I don't really see how the pieces fit... The Forest Navel isn't related to these areas at all... &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:00, 21 September 2017 (EDT)
Well, The Forest Naval is between The Impact Site, And the Final Trial. And I'm pretty sure, If you look at the location from the Impact Site section of the Wistful Wild, and look at the area selection screen, I believe the coordinates should match it's Pikmin counterpart, by which I mean where if you look at the dots on the selelction screen from The Impact Site section, from the right angle the dots should line up.
Meaning the Awakening Wood should line up with the Forest of Hope dots, the same with the Peplexing Pool, and the Distant Spring. Going by that, That should place the Forest Naval around the area with the Stump, Now, the Stump may not be the Naval, (Unless a tree grew and fell/got chopped.) But it should be around that area, It would kind of explain how the Final Trial and Impact Site became connected, which would mean they were always connected (paths just weren't open) and they just look far away on the Pikmin selection screen due to having to include the Naval...... Then again I could just be over thinking things, But I'm almost positive the entrance to the Naval should be around that area somewhere...... {{unsigned|Pikmin Theories}}
:Right, I can imagine it. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:20, 22 September 2017 (EDT)
Uh..... I don't mean to be rude or anything, but is that sarcasm?.......[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 20:26, 22 September 2017 (EDT)
:It's not. I'm not very interested in these sort of theories, but that's just me. Regardless, now that you've explained it, I can see the Forest Navel fitting in the middle. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 07:44, 23 September 2017 (EDT)

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Might be of intrest[edit]

This might be of intrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62Ku-Q-it0&feature=related 68.39.16.71 06:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. Is OoB worth mentioning anywhere?GP 18:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

dose anyone else think that this represents the "4th corner of the world"- the orient?Rocky0718 01:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)rocky0718Rocky0718 01:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

...I'm confused. In German, this would be in the area of Irak and Israel. However, it seems that in English this (according to Wikipedia) incorrectly means eastern Asia. I'd suppose this has similiarity with the gardening in Japan or China. It reminds me more of the woods in Canada, though.
Uh, right, the glitch. We incorporated the one for the Brawl Yard, so maybe we should do the same here. I remember saying this somewhere before...--Prezintenden 11:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, primarily east Asia. I sort of saw the maple leaves as Canadian, which I suppose is traditionally associated with them (note flag); but the overall idea does seem to be sort of Japanese in a way. Mainly the bamboo-type stuff over the back; and those sort of trees seem like the stuff I've seen on TV set in Japan/China. Likely as it's based on the creator's garden too - a lot of the game is probably based on a similar setting.GP 16:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Canadian leaves are diffrent then that... I would know... But I don't live in Canada ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ 11:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Lol at "Canadian leaves".--Prezintenden 13:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I haven't played the Wistful Wild in a little while now, but if you're talking about those reddish maple leaves with the thin arms that sort of look like cannabis leaves, yeah, those would be Japanese maples as opposed to, say, sugar maples and Norwegian maples which are common to north-eastern America, and although Japanese maples are native to the Orient, I can tell you that that's not the only place they grow. —Jimbo Jambo

YIE?[edit]

what does YIE mean? (it's in the grass where the blue onion lands)Captain Ludwig 13:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

It's part of a big triangular YIELD sign. —Jimbo Jambo
It is? I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

you didn't notice?I am rocky0718 and i PWN

Noticed? Yes. Processed? No... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

In Japanese it's a stop sign, the stop signs are triangular there. But in the other versions it is a yield sign. Portal-Kombat

Cool... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

Wistful Wild is two areas?[edit]

This has really confused me about the area: if you've played the first game it's easy to tell that Wistful Wild is a combination of The Final Trial and The Impact Site's maps. Olimar's Journal in Pikmin 2 indicates that the Wistful Wild is The Impact Site, but he does not relate any part of it to The Final Trial- does this mean that the part of the area that looks like The Final Trial is not actually The Final Trial, it just looks like it? Portal-Kombat

I think it might be too confusing if he actually suggested that this one area was a combination of two areas which weren't even close to each other geographically in the first game. Still, that's not to say that it isn't, since there's already plenty to suggest that that the planet has wild tectonic activity, or that Olimar was away from the planet for longer than most people assume. I just don't think that the fact he doesn't mention the relation should suggest that they aren't actually related, since I don't think he says anything about the Awakening Wood either. —Jimbo Jambo
Well put I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
Wait... tectonic activity? Proof? I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
Well, you've got underground areas suddenly shifting their layout around, and areas like the Perplexing Pool which, while it's clearly the same area from the first game, still looks notably different. Also, I believe tectonic activity is mentioned in the manual regarding caves...or was it talking about that "electro-magnetic activity" which is also supposedly the cause of the time stop? I don't actually remember.... —Jimbo Jambo
It was electro-magnetic time warping magic... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
Heh, then maybe that's what drew the two areas together. —Jimbo Jambo
Time warping, dirt pulling magnetic fields? It's magic...magic...if you believe that it's so... it's magic... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

Hmm. Actually, he did mention that the Awakening Wood was the Forest of Hope. In one of the treasure descriptions he said something like "This forest has changed since the last time I visited it". As for the amount of time he was away, it must have actually been a while on the planet, even if the magnetic/electrical/temporal/magical currents on the planet caused it to change. Portal-Kombat

True... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

Crystal, I was kidding...although it does seem a lot more likely than magnetic fields having amazing time-warping properties. —Jimbo Jambo

I was kidding too... >.> ...and singing... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

First off... Has anyone here heard of Einstein's theory of relativity? and second if it WAS tectonic activity wouldnt there be a huge mountain in the middle? or atleast a major hill? and just for the note the screen shot of the map shows what seems to be a pond or lake shore... Who knows what monsters lurk in there... *shudders and loads sub into dropship.*--Prof. 00:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

And I forgot too mention I have no idea how einstein's theory effects the sub levels.--Prof. 01:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Errr... I'm ~LonelyRedpikminsprite.jpgTurret~ And I approve this message.

I think it was tectonic activity. The underground areas Olimar explored were not new, they had ancient human objects and creature that thrived there. Seeing that Pikmin 2 has about the same amount of enimies on the map as Pikmin, I don't think there was a large migation. Those cave were old, not new, and if above ground acsess is only now being found, a shift must have occured. Ridly Roar! 21:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Lake/pond creatures[edit]

Ok, has anyone noticed the lake along the left side of the screenshot map? Ive been wondering what could inhabit it. Yeah this is sorta random but still, I just want ideas of what might inhabit it. And please try to be a bit realistic.(pikmin realistic) --Prof. 20:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

errr... I see two lakes, both in the center soo... the lower one has a wollywog and the one above has didly squot... I mean nothing. it'sa PK king

Maybe you're getting confused with the platform Hole of Heroes is on?GP

The Final Trial can't be part of thi because one, the Final Trial part of this area is south of the Impact Site part, while in the first game it was north, and two, you can still see the island the Final Trial was on. Dockywho 15:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

No Green, If you look at the right side of the overview screen shot, you will see part of a pond/lake near the half-pipe slide, you will see it but what I wanna know is (Outside of the water dumples, bloysters, crawbsters, Crawmads, and any other aquatic creature thats in the piklopedia) what creatures live in it.

i can see three spots for onions. were u land by the berries and by the armored note and those walking plantsRpwyb

Sorry, I try to keep brain use to a minimum during summer, I meant right side.--Prof. 18:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

What I consider Ironic is VOR,AW and PP have overworld bosses and WW which was partially was once the Final Trial, the area with the final boss! Maybe the boss is in the lake? Empress Water Dumple?

oops forgot to sign --Loafy the Breadbug 10:11, 25 September 2010 (EDT)

The lake[edit]

Oh my God! I just had an epiphany regarding the mysterious out of bounds lake! Not only does the size look about right, but given it's relevant location to the Final Trial area and the Impact Site area, as well as it's location to the Awakening Wood (Aka Forest of Hope) and Perplexing Pool (Aka Distant Spring). Theoretically Wouldn't that put this mysterious lake in the location of........ The lost Forest Naval!?!!?!?!?!!?Pikmin Theories (talk) 11:21, 20 September 2017 (EDT)

Out of bounds lake? What do you mean? — {EspyoT} 17:48, 20 September 2017 (EDT)

On the map, out of bounds between the landing site, and the area with the Dream Den, their is a large circle from the image it kind of looks like a lake......( but looking at it again, I suppose it could be a tree stump......) but because of it's location regarding the other areas, wouldn't that be about where the Forest Naval should be?Pikmin Theories (talk) 21:09, 20 September 2017 (EDT)

Oh, that's just a stump. Anyway, I don't really see how the pieces fit... The Forest Navel isn't related to these areas at all... — {EspyoT} 15:00, 21 September 2017 (EDT)

Well, The Forest Naval is between The Impact Site, And the Final Trial. And I'm pretty sure, If you look at the location from the Impact Site section of the Wistful Wild, and look at the area selection screen, I believe the coordinates should match it's Pikmin counterpart, by which I mean where if you look at the dots on the selelction screen from The Impact Site section, from the right angle the dots should line up. Meaning the Awakening Wood should line up with the Forest of Hope dots, the same with the Peplexing Pool, and the Distant Spring. Going by that, That should place the Forest Naval around the area with the Stump, Now, the Stump may not be the Naval, (Unless a tree grew and fell/got chopped.) But it should be around that area, It would kind of explain how the Final Trial and Impact Site became connected, which would mean they were always connected (paths just weren't open) and they just look far away on the Pikmin selection screen due to having to include the Naval...... Then again I could just be over thinking things, But I'm almost positive the entrance to the Naval should be around that area somewhere...... The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pikmin Theories • (talk) • (contribs)

Right, I can imagine it. — {EspyoT} 14:20, 22 September 2017 (EDT)

Uh..... I don't mean to be rude or anything, but is that sarcasm?.......Pikmin Theories (talk) 20:26, 22 September 2017 (EDT)

It's not. I'm not very interested in these sort of theories, but that's just me. Regardless, now that you've explained it, I can see the Forest Navel fitting in the middle. — {EspyoT} 07:44, 23 September 2017 (EDT)