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==Weight==
I thought it was established that each Pikmin only weighed a tenth of a gram, with purples weighing one gram....
I thought it was established that each Pikmin only weighed a tenth of a gram, with purples weighing one gram....


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:[[Talk:Purple Pikmin|Sound familiar]]? Forget maths and physics. Pikmin is a game, and it has never actually been stated that these ''are'' grams. To your 10 gram Pikmin: the "atom density" goes in that direction. Before you ask more, please read the text.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
:[[Talk:Purple Pikmin|Sound familiar]]? Forget maths and physics. Pikmin is a game, and it has never actually been stated that these ''are'' grams. To your 10 gram Pikmin: the "atom density" goes in that direction. Before you ask more, please read the text.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
Okay, i'm just going to assume that a gram is pretty small and therefore Purple Pikmin DO weigh 10 grams. And, yes, I read the entire text, and submitted my own theroy.[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 00:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Just to point out that each normal pikmin definately does weigh a gram and purples weigh 10, as the [[Doomsday Apparatus]] weighs 1kg (1000 grams) and needs 100 purple pikmin to carry it.
--[[User:Semajdraehs|<span style="color:Blue">Semaj</span><span style="color:Red">draehs</span>]]- <span style="color:green"> any replies to my</span> [[User talk:Semajdraehs|<span style="color:Grey">Talk page</span>]] 18:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ick, no.  Looking at other treasures, they just don't weigh the right relative amounts, so we can't work out a Pikmin's weight.  Sorry about the reaction, but we've...discussed this before.  In great detail.  I forget where, maybe Doomsday Apparatus or Purple Pikmin talk pages.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
==Name==
Er, I didn't mean to imply that this article had a conjectural title. Even though it was never officially named, it is what it is: a paper bag. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:If it's not officially named, it's conjectural. That's how I thought of it.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::That's what I was thinking, too.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
The Ship officially named it, I think. I was waiting on Day 1 waiting for flower Pikmin for a long time, and the Ship said something about putting Pikmin on something.--[[File:Rob.jpg|thumb|72px]] the --[[User:MewFan128|MewFan128]] the master 13:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, yeah.  I'll check that.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
:Didn't mention the bag on day one.  Too lazy to check 2.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
Mabe it was 2. I was younger.--[[File:Kirbysig.jpg|left|50px]] the master --[[User:MewFan128|MewFan128]] 04:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:It just calls it 'an object blocking your path'.  Huh.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}
Oh...........--[[File:Kirbysig.jpg|50px]] the master --[[User:MewFan128|MewFan128]] 13:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
A [[hint]] in ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe'' calls a paper bag a "shopping bag". Does this mean that "shopping bag" is the official name of this obstacle? &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 22:18, June 28, 2021 (EDT)
:Indeed, I couldn't find the string "bag", or "paper" anywhere else, in any version of the game (well, there were some matches, but they were irrelevant). I guess that should be the name. This won't help much in dividing the P2 bag and the P3 bag however, because the P2 bag can just as easily also be called a shopping bag. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:08, July 5, 2021 (EDT)
::Well that's weird, because I just checked the original version of ''Pikmin 3'', and when you lock onto one, the name that comes up is "Paper Bag" (with the capital B). I think lock-on text is more reliable than hint text, so the article's name can stay. I made a redirect for [[Shopping bag]] a month ago, so the situation is fine. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 18:49, July 5, 2021 (EDT)
:Aha, so that explains it. I wasn't even recalling that you could lock-on to it. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:03, July 12, 2021 (EDT)
==Seperate Paper bag & Bag==
''Pikmin 4'' gives an official name to the crushable obstacle, saying "Bag flattened." in the pop-up, versus "Paper bag lowered." for the ramp obstacle. Since they have official distinct names now, I see no reason for them to share an article since the conjectural name was all the have in common. I propose all the information about the ''Pikmin 2'' obstacle, and its apperance in 4, be moved to a seperate [[Bag]] article, while the ''Pikmin 3'' obstacle remains here.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 16:59, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
:I agree, for reasons I've explained on the Pikcord before. I'll perform the split now. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 21:37, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

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Weight[edit]

I thought it was established that each Pikmin only weighed a tenth of a gram, with purples weighing one gram....

We did have a long discussion, but don't recall that as the result. I'd have to read through it again, though.--Prezintenden

How much is a gram anyway? And I think that a Pikmin weighs a gram, but that would mean Purple Pikmin weigh 10 grams... And that would be too heavy for a Pikmin, right?Pikdude 20:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Sound familiar? Forget maths and physics. Pikmin is a game, and it has never actually been stated that these are grams. To your 10 gram Pikmin: the "atom density" goes in that direction. Before you ask more, please read the text.--Prezintenden

Okay, i'm just going to assume that a gram is pretty small and therefore Purple Pikmin DO weigh 10 grams. And, yes, I read the entire text, and submitted my own theroy.Pikdude 00:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Just to point out that each normal pikmin definately does weigh a gram and purples weigh 10, as the Doomsday Apparatus weighs 1kg (1000 grams) and needs 100 purple pikmin to carry it.

--Semajdraehs- any replies to my Talk page 18:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ick, no. Looking at other treasures, they just don't weigh the right relative amounts, so we can't work out a Pikmin's weight. Sorry about the reaction, but we've...discussed this before. In great detail. I forget where, maybe Doomsday Apparatus or Purple Pikmin talk pages.GP

Name[edit]

Er, I didn't mean to imply that this article had a conjectural title. Even though it was never officially named, it is what it is: a paper bag. —Jimbo Jambo

If it's not officially named, it's conjectural. That's how I thought of it.--Prezintenden
That's what I was thinking, too.GP

The Ship officially named it, I think. I was waiting on Day 1 waiting for flower Pikmin for a long time, and the Ship said something about putting Pikmin on something.--

Real world photo of R.O.B. (where he is known as Robotic Operating Buddy)

the --MewFan128 the master 13:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. I'll check that.GP
Didn't mention the bag on day one. Too lazy to check 2.GP

Mabe it was 2. I was younger.--

Kirbysig.jpg

the master --MewFan128 04:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

It just calls it 'an object blocking your path'. Huh.GP

Oh...........--Kirbysig.jpg the master --MewFan128 13:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

A hint in Pikmin 3 Deluxe calls a paper bag a "shopping bag". Does this mean that "shopping bag" is the official name of this obstacle? — Botanist(talk) 22:18, June 28, 2021 (EDT)

Indeed, I couldn't find the string "bag", or "paper" anywhere else, in any version of the game (well, there were some matches, but they were irrelevant). I guess that should be the name. This won't help much in dividing the P2 bag and the P3 bag however, because the P2 bag can just as easily also be called a shopping bag. — {EspyoT} 14:08, July 5, 2021 (EDT)
Well that's weird, because I just checked the original version of Pikmin 3, and when you lock onto one, the name that comes up is "Paper Bag" (with the capital B). I think lock-on text is more reliable than hint text, so the article's name can stay. I made a redirect for Shopping bag a month ago, so the situation is fine. — Botanist(talk) 18:49, July 5, 2021 (EDT)
Aha, so that explains it. I wasn't even recalling that you could lock-on to it. — {EspyoT} 15:03, July 12, 2021 (EDT)

Seperate Paper bag & Bag[edit]

Pikmin 4 gives an official name to the crushable obstacle, saying "Bag flattened." in the pop-up, versus "Paper bag lowered." for the ramp obstacle. Since they have official distinct names now, I see no reason for them to share an article since the conjectural name was all the have in common. I propose all the information about the Pikmin 2 obstacle, and its apperance in 4, be moved to a seperate Bag article, while the Pikmin 3 obstacle remains here.--PopitTart (talk) 16:59, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

I agree, for reasons I've explained on the Pikcord before. I'll perform the split now. — Soprano(talk) 21:37, September 30, 2023 (EDT)