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===''Pikmin 3''=== | ===''Pikmin 3''=== | ||
The only way to access abysses in [[Story Mode]] is through glitches that push objects under or off the level. In [[Mission Mode]] and [[Bingo Battle]] however, pits exist in the same fashion as in ''[[Pikmin 2]]'', that is, as the area below metallic levels. In Mission Mode, this is [[Clockwork Chasm]], and in Bingo Battle, this is the [[Rusted Labyrinth]] and [[Corroded Maze]]. | The only way to access abysses in [[Story Mode]] is through glitches that push objects under or off the level. In [[Mission Mode]] and [[Bingo Battle]] however, pits exist in the same fashion as in ''[[Pikmin 2]]'', that is, as the area below metallic levels. In Mission Mode, this is [[Clockwork Chasm]], and in Bingo Battle, this is the [[Rusted Labyrinth]] and [[Corroded Maze]]. In Version 1.4.0 or higher of ''Pikmin 3'' and ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe'', falling into an abyss causes leaders to lose one third of their health. | ||
===''Pikmin 4''=== | |||
There are no pits in overworld areas nor [[Dandori Battle]]s, but some caves and [[Dandori Challenge]]s do contain abysses like in ''Pikmin 2''. | |||
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*[[Industrial Maze]], both sublevels. | |||
*[[Drafty Gallery]], all sublevels. | |||
*[[Below-Grade Discotheque]], all sublevels. | |||
*[[Doppelgänger's Den]], sublevels 2 and 3. | |||
*[[Ultimate Testing Range]], all sublevels. | |||
*[[Cavern for a King]], sublevels 4, 6 and 7. | |||
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;Dandori Challenges: | |||
*[[Aerial Incinerator]] | |||
*[[Trial of the Sage Leaf]], story 5, "The White Key", and story 6, "Gimmick Gambit". | |||
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====''Pikmin 3''==== | ====''Pikmin 3''==== | ||
{{game help|p3|Expand on this info (plus, what about the Bingo Battle stages?).}} | {{game help|p3|Expand on this info (plus, what about the Bingo Battle stages?).}} | ||
In ''Pikmin 3'', falling into the abyss was hard, but possible, prior to the [[Update|1.4.0 update]]. Before said version, leaders could only touch the pit plane by [[Glitches in Pikmin 3#Early Winged Pikmin|glitching into walls]]. Much like in ''Pikmin 2'', leaders that touch the void are merely respawned back in a specific location, which can be used to skip portions of the area | In ''Pikmin 3'', falling into the abyss was hard, but possible, prior to the [[Update|1.4.0 update]]. Before said version, leaders could only touch the pit plane by [[Glitches in Pikmin 3#Early Winged Pikmin|glitching into walls]]. Much like in ''Pikmin 2'', leaders that touch the void are merely respawned back in a specific location, which can be used to skip portions of the area. In ''Pikmin 3'', with the existence of the [[Rusted Labyrinth]], it is possible for leaders to be thrown into the abyss, making it the first time in the series in which leaders can touch the abyss on purpose, instead of only with exploits. | ||
====''Pikmin 4''==== | |||
[[Oatchi]]'s jumping ability makes it easy for him to pass over railings and into the abyss, optionally while carrying the [[Pikmin 4 player character|player character]]. If either of them fall, they will return to the floor in a ball of light without taking any harm. Any Pikmin riding on Oatchi's back will return along with him, but Pikmin in a squad following the player character will react as if they were falling alone. If Oatchi is carrying an object in his mouth, he will keep it on his way back from the abyss to the ground.{{cite youtube|vN1H-MACVng|of Oatchi falling into the abyss while carrying the [[Telekinesis Detector]]}} | |||
===Pikmin=== | ===Pikmin=== | ||
Pikmin that fall into the abyss will be killed. In ''Pikmin 3'', their death scream is long and high-pitched, clearly noting that they have been thrown into one. Although rare, it is possible for Pikmin to touch the pit plane on seemingly "pitless" areas, via a glitch such as the [[Glitches in Pikmin#Crushing glitch|crushing glitch]]. | Pikmin that fall into the abyss will be killed. In ''Pikmin 3'', their death scream is long and high-pitched, clearly noting that they have been thrown into one. Although rare, it is possible for Pikmin to touch the pit plane on seemingly "pitless" areas, via a glitch such as the [[Glitches in Pikmin#Crushing glitch|crushing glitch]]. | ||
In ''Pikmin'', [[bomb-rock]] [[Yellow Pikmin]] that touch the pit will cause the bomb-rock to explode instantly, but with some peculiar behavior – the explosion happens roughly on the right spot, but at ground level, and is invisible and silent. This explosion can harm leaders and Pikmin.{{cite youtube|yEyPaEJmlrk|of bomb-rock Pikmin touching the abyss and killing Pikmin on the surface}} | In ''Pikmin'', [[bomb-rock]] [[Yellow Pikmin]] that touch the pit will cause the bomb-rock to explode instantly, but with some peculiar behavior – the explosion happens roughly on the right spot, but at ground level, and is invisible and silent. This explosion can harm leaders and Pikmin.{{cite youtube|yEyPaEJmlrk|of bomb-rock Pikmin touching the abyss and killing Pikmin on the surface}} An easy way to see this in action is by going to the corridors with fire geysers on [[The Forest Navel]], having a group of Pikmin, and throwing a bomb-rock Pikmin down into the pit, as close to the ledge as possible. There is a chance that an invisible explosion will kill the Pikmin on the corridor. | ||
[[Glow Pikmin]] cannot die from falling into an abyss, as they will only fall a short distance before teleporting back to the active leader's squad. | |||
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[[Ship part]]s that fall into a pit will not return. Notoriously, the [[Libra]] has the potential to [[Glitches in Pikmin#Libra glitch|fall off the island]] it is at while being carried, and if it falls into the void, it cannot be recovered. | [[Ship part]]s that fall into a pit will not return. Notoriously, the [[Libra]] has the potential to [[Glitches in Pikmin#Libra glitch|fall off the island]] it is at while being carried, and if it falls into the void, it cannot be recovered. | ||
In ''Pikmin 2'', all [[carry|carriable]] objects that fall off will simply reappear back on the stage near the point they fell <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcemR6ZejJ4&t=300s YouTube video] accidentally showing what happens to both treasures and enemy corpses when they fall into a pit</ref> | In ''Pikmin 2'', all [[carry|carriable]] objects that fall off will simply reappear back on the stage near the point they fell, <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcemR6ZejJ4&t=300s YouTube video] accidentally showing what happens to both treasures and enemy corpses when they fall into a pit</ref> specifically on the closest [[Carry#Paths|carrying waypoint]]. This is also true for treasures being carried by Dweevils or treasures that are inside undefeated enemies due to them being disconnected/dropped when their holder is removed by the abyss. | ||
In ''Pikmin 3'', fruits, treasures, and minor objects that fall into the abyss will simply reappear at their original location. | In ''Pikmin 3'' and ''Pikmin 4'', fruits, treasures, and minor objects that fall into the abyss will simply reappear at their original location. | ||
In ''Pikmin'', if the cursor is placed on a bottomless pit, it sinks to the bottom and becomes invisible. In ''Pikmin 2'', ''New Play Control! Pikmin'', ''New Play Control! Pikmin 2'', and ''Pikmin 3'' (all [[controls|control]] schemes), it stays on an invisible plane at ground level. | In ''Pikmin'', if the cursor is placed on a bottomless pit, it sinks to the bottom and becomes invisible. In ''Pikmin 2'', ''New Play Control! Pikmin'', ''New Play Control! Pikmin 2'', and ''Pikmin 3'' (all [[controls|control]] schemes), it stays on an invisible plane at ground level. |
Latest revision as of 17:47, August 16, 2024
Because this subject has no official name, the name "Pit" is conjectural. |
The following article or section is in need of assistance from someone who plays Hey! Pikmin. |
Pit (also called bottomless pit, abyss, or void) is the name given to the depths down below where the level is on top of. In games, these pits usually kill or harm creatures that fall into them, and for the most part, their bottom is unknown. In the Pikmin series, a pit's punishment on an object that falls in depends on a variety of factors.
Most areas are considered to take place at ground-level, but some areas and caves clearly take place suspended above a seemingly endless abyss. There are borders almost everywhere stopping creatures from just walking off the edge and falling down, although some enemies can take steps large enough to walk over these boundaries, and leaders can throw Pikmin or their own partners over the boundaries.
Technically, all areas contain a bottomless pit – environments that appear to be at ground-level simply keep a pit plane right under the ground. This can be proven by the fact that, in some extraordinary cases, Pikmin or leaders can go through the ground, and will act as if they had fallen into a regular pit.
Locations[edit]
The following is a list of areas, caves and levels that contain clearly defined and accessible bottomless pits.
Pikmin[edit]
The only location in Pikmin with a normal abyss is The Forest Navel, where throwing Pikmin off the stage is a possible issue.
Pikmin 2[edit]
None of the overworld areas in the game have a regular abyss, but cave sublevels with the "metal" theme take place in rusty platforms suspended by metal beams far above the pit. The following caves have such sublevels:
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Pikmin 3[edit]
The only way to access abysses in Story Mode is through glitches that push objects under or off the level. In Mission Mode and Bingo Battle however, pits exist in the same fashion as in Pikmin 2, that is, as the area below metallic levels. In Mission Mode, this is Clockwork Chasm, and in Bingo Battle, this is the Rusted Labyrinth and Corroded Maze. In Version 1.4.0 or higher of Pikmin 3 and Pikmin 3 Deluxe, falling into an abyss causes leaders to lose one third of their health.
Pikmin 4[edit]
There are no pits in overworld areas nor Dandori Battles, but some caves and Dandori Challenges do contain abysses like in Pikmin 2.
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Behavior[edit]
In general, pits are meant to kill whatever falls in, but for gameplay reasons or due to oversights, this may not always be the case.
Leaders[edit]
Pikmin[edit]
To do: Add these glitches to the glitches article. |
In Pikmin, Captain Olimar is not meant to fall into the void that surrounds The Forest Navel. However, it is possible to exploit some glitches that can allow Olimar to go into the void. One of two things can happen, although it is currently not clear what causes each one to happen.
By having a Shearwig chew off the bridge connecting the main land to the island on the northwest while Olimar is on said island, the bridge will slowly be removed, revealing the walk-off ledge to the captain. Alternately, Olimar may be pushed off the stage by being compressed against a 20 pellet[1]. As the game is not ready to handle Olimar walking off, he will not be killed but will instead continuously walk on an invisible plane. He will keep moving forward, something which cannot be controlled by the player. In some unused maps that have floors that can be walked off, the same behavior happens. Oddly, on The Forest Navel, Olimar also teleports some distance above ground level when he goes out of bounds, and when he bumps against a wall or there is terrain below him, he begins walking in a different direction at almost twice his previous speed. If in this state, he goes above other pieces of terrain, he'll simply fall on them, going back in-bounds.
Wollywogs can also be used to push Olimar into the ground and towards the void. By being compressed between the Anti-Dioxin Filter and the two nearby Wollywogs[2], or by being compressed against a Wollywog and the wall of the lake[3], Olimar will go through the floor and fall for a bit, before eventually respawning where he was. He can either appear in the same spot he started, or a bit higher above, which, in the case of the wall compression, can allow him to get on top of the wall.
Pikmin 2[edit]
In Pikmin 2, it is easier for leaders to fall into the void, although still only in unintended ways. If a leader falls off while in a regular state, he will just reappear back on top of the Research Pod or the Hocotate ship without problem. On the Awakening Wood and the Perplexing Pool, this leads to otherwise-unreachable paths.
However, if a leader falls while in a lying down state, one of two things will happen: he will either be treated as a treasure (see the other objects section below), or he will become stuck in a frozen state. What decides the outcome seems to be purely random.[4]
In order to fall into the abyss in an area with a leader, a glitch must be abused, like the seesaw block glitch. To fall off in a cave, the leader can be carried by a dweevil.
Pikmin 3[edit]
The following article or section is in need of assistance from someone who plays Pikmin 3. |
In Pikmin 3, falling into the abyss was hard, but possible, prior to the 1.4.0 update. Before said version, leaders could only touch the pit plane by glitching into walls. Much like in Pikmin 2, leaders that touch the void are merely respawned back in a specific location, which can be used to skip portions of the area. In Pikmin 3, with the existence of the Rusted Labyrinth, it is possible for leaders to be thrown into the abyss, making it the first time in the series in which leaders can touch the abyss on purpose, instead of only with exploits.
Pikmin 4[edit]
Oatchi's jumping ability makes it easy for him to pass over railings and into the abyss, optionally while carrying the player character. If either of them fall, they will return to the floor in a ball of light without taking any harm. Any Pikmin riding on Oatchi's back will return along with him, but Pikmin in a squad following the player character will react as if they were falling alone. If Oatchi is carrying an object in his mouth, he will keep it on his way back from the abyss to the ground.[5]
Pikmin[edit]
Pikmin that fall into the abyss will be killed. In Pikmin 3, their death scream is long and high-pitched, clearly noting that they have been thrown into one. Although rare, it is possible for Pikmin to touch the pit plane on seemingly "pitless" areas, via a glitch such as the crushing glitch.
In Pikmin, bomb-rock Yellow Pikmin that touch the pit will cause the bomb-rock to explode instantly, but with some peculiar behavior – the explosion happens roughly on the right spot, but at ground level, and is invisible and silent. This explosion can harm leaders and Pikmin.[6] An easy way to see this in action is by going to the corridors with fire geysers on The Forest Navel, having a group of Pikmin, and throwing a bomb-rock Pikmin down into the pit, as close to the ledge as possible. There is a chance that an invisible explosion will kill the Pikmin on the corridor.
Glow Pikmin cannot die from falling into an abyss, as they will only fall a short distance before teleporting back to the active leader's squad.
Enemies[edit]
In the first two games, enemies that fall in a pit are killed right away. If the enemy was carrying a treasure, said treasure will just reappear on the stage.
In Pikmin, the only way to see enemies fall off is by luring a Shearwig into an area with a low boundary, damaging it, and hoping it flies over it. Other than that, there is a presumed glitch with the Beady Long Legs, in that if it escapes its arena, and is lured to the bottomless pit near the section with the Libra, the game will freeze.
In Pikmin 2, the boundaries on some of the metal-themed cave sublevels are low enough for large enemies to cross over, such as Gatling Groinks and Fiery Bulblaxes. These enemies can be made to cross the edge by having prey on the other side; they'll walk off while attempting to chase their target. This can be exploited in order to kill the enemies easily and without consequence.
For Pikmin 3, the rules were changed a bit: enemies that fall into the abyss are put back onto the ledge that they fell off of in a similar way to that of the leaders. The enemies, however, do not take any damage. This is observable in Mission Mode in stages such as the Clockwork Chasm, and in Bingo Battle in stages such as the Corroded Maze.
Other objects[edit]
Ship parts that fall into a pit will not return. Notoriously, the Libra has the potential to fall off the island it is at while being carried, and if it falls into the void, it cannot be recovered.
In Pikmin 2, all carriable objects that fall off will simply reappear back on the stage near the point they fell, [7] specifically on the closest carrying waypoint. This is also true for treasures being carried by Dweevils or treasures that are inside undefeated enemies due to them being disconnected/dropped when their holder is removed by the abyss.
In Pikmin 3 and Pikmin 4, fruits, treasures, and minor objects that fall into the abyss will simply reappear at their original location.
In Pikmin, if the cursor is placed on a bottomless pit, it sinks to the bottom and becomes invisible. In Pikmin 2, New Play Control! Pikmin, New Play Control! Pikmin 2, and Pikmin 3 (all control schemes), it stays on an invisible plane at ground level.
Trivia[edit]
- Internally, Pikmin 2 calls the abyss
hell
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See also[edit]
References[edit]
- ^ YouTube video showing Olimar going out of bounds in The Forest Navel, by being compressed against a pellet
- ^ YouTube video showing Olimar being pushed out of bounds by the Wollywogs against the Anti-Dioxin Filter
- ^ YouTube video showing Olimar being pushed out of bounds by a Wollywog against a wall
- ^ YouTube video showing what happens if a lying leader falls into the pit at different times
- ^ YouTube video of Oatchi falling into the abyss while carrying the Telekinesis Detector
- ^ YouTube video of bomb-rock Pikmin touching the abyss and killing Pikmin on the surface
- ^ YouTube video accidentally showing what happens to both treasures and enemy corpses when they fall into a pit
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