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::I will say that the title "rookie Rescue Officer" does appear to be used officially in [[https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/News/2023/August/A-day-in-the-life-of-a-Rescue-Corps-Officer-2416417.html one article]], which also calls them "our rookie" for short. The alt-text for the [[https://pikmin.nintendo.com/ca/comics/#!/too-stuck-to-pluck first comic]] seems to call them "Newbie Rescue Officer", before shortening it to just "a Rescue Officer" in all later text. [[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 09:45, July 7, 2024 (EDT) | ::I will say that the title "rookie Rescue Officer" does appear to be used officially in [[https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/News/2023/August/A-day-in-the-life-of-a-Rescue-Corps-Officer-2416417.html one article]], which also calls them "our rookie" for short. The alt-text for the [[https://pikmin.nintendo.com/ca/comics/#!/too-stuck-to-pluck first comic]] seems to call them "Newbie Rescue Officer", before shortening it to just "a Rescue Officer" in all later text. [[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 09:45, July 7, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:::You're right. I didn't do enough research before claiming that about the "Rookie" option. [[User:CortexCPU242|CortexCPU242]] ([[User talk:CortexCPU242|talk]]) 05:30, July 9, 2024 (EDT) | :::You're right. I didn't do enough research before claiming that about the "Rookie" option. [[User:CortexCPU242|CortexCPU242]] ([[User talk:CortexCPU242|talk]]) 05:30, July 9, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::::Between the options of "Newbie Rescue Officer" and "Rookie Rescue Officer", which name would be better to use on the wiki? — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 21:29, November 29, 2024 (EST) | |||
:::::I'm more in favor of Rookie Rescue Officer. It sounds more formal, and is a term used by Olimar, Shepherd, Collin, and especially Dingo.--[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 22:43, November 29, 2024 (EST) | |||
::::::I just came across another source for "Rookie Rescue Officer". You know how I mentioned that the coloring pages in the Japanese Pikmin Garden website calls them {{j|新人レスキュー隊員|Shinjin Resukyū-Taiin}}? It turns out that English-language versions of the pages can be [https://play.nintendo.com/printables/print-and-play/pikmin-heroes-coloring-pages/ found on the Play Nintendo website], and they refer to the character as "ROOKIE RESCUE OFFICER". Not only that, the name {{j|新人レスキュー隊員|Shinjin Resukyū-Taiin}} is also used in the chocolate egg figurines, so I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the character's official Japanese "name", so I'd say it makes sense to treat its English equivalent the same way. [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 09:57, November 30, 2024 (EST) | |||
:Slight correction, the name on the comic's cast page is actually {{j|新米レスキュー|Shinmai Resukyū}}, not {{j|新人レスキュー|Shinjin Resukyū}}, meaning it is not short for the other name. Not that it changes much. [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 11:17, July 8, 2024 (EDT) | :Slight correction, the name on the comic's cast page is actually {{j|新米レスキュー|Shinmai Resukyū}}, not {{j|新人レスキュー|Shinjin Resukyū}}, meaning it is not short for the other name. Not that it changes much. [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 11:17, July 8, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::If we did rename the article to "Newbie Rescue Officer" or something like it, what other changes would need to be made around the wiki? A lot of things would need to be reworded. I think in situations where an article is describing things that can be done with the Newbie Rescue Officer and Oatchi, the name could be shortened to "Rescue Officer", because it would be clear what the name is referring to in this context. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 20:55, July 8, 2024 (EDT) | ::If we did rename the article to "Newbie Rescue Officer" or something like it, what other changes would need to be made around the wiki? A lot of things would need to be reworded. I think in situations where an article is describing things that can be done with the Newbie Rescue Officer and Oatchi, the name could be shortened to "Rescue Officer", because it would be clear what the name is referring to in this context. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 20:55, July 8, 2024 (EDT) | ||
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::That's definitely a strange way to sort them. That navbox also puts Collin and Shepherd under "Rescue Corps" and Moss under "Other", although all of them are playable leaders in at least one game mode. [[User:CortexCPU242|CortexCPU242]] ([[User talk:CortexCPU242|talk]]) 10:39, July 9, 2024 (EDT) | ::That's definitely a strange way to sort them. That navbox also puts Collin and Shepherd under "Rescue Corps" and Moss under "Other", although all of them are playable leaders in at least one game mode. [[User:CortexCPU242|CortexCPU242]] ([[User talk:CortexCPU242|talk]]) 10:39, July 9, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:::That was discussed on the discord when someone had actually moved them to the leaders section of Category:Characters, which was reverted by Soprano. He ruled that the characters should be sorted by the roles that they'd be better recognized for. Since Collin and Shepherd are only playable in smaller side-modes, they'd be more recognizable as NPCs to the average joe trying to find characters. That's not to say I agree with that organization method, just that it was discussed briefly on the server. [[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 13:30, July 9, 2024 (EDT) | :::That was discussed on the discord when someone had actually moved them to the leaders section of Category:Characters, which was reverted by Soprano. He ruled that the characters should be sorted by the roles that they'd be better recognized for. Since Collin and Shepherd are only playable in smaller side-modes, they'd be more recognizable as NPCs to the average joe trying to find characters. That's not to say I agree with that organization method, just that it was discussed briefly on the server. [[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 13:30, July 9, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::::Hm, I see. Though, I tried fiddling bit on [[User:2 B/Sandbox|my sandbox]], and I think this could work. What do you think? [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 13:34, July 9, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:::::I think that's a good way to organize the template. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 21:29, November 29, 2024 (EST) | |||
:I don't think any of the nicknames given in-game are common enough for them to be "the" name. If one nickname was used 80+% of the time, then maybe, but as it stands now, every character and menu just refers to the character as whatever name comes in handy then. I think we have no choice but to go with a descriptive name instead of a pseudo-proper noun. {{w|Wikipedia:Article titles|Wikipedia's policies}} might help here. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:20, November 30, 2024 (EST) | |||
::Again though, wouldn't that reasoning also have applied to the Hocotate ship prior to Pikmin 3 Deluxe? [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 09:50, November 30, 2024 (EST) | |||