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:"Dusty Mushroom" is actually the name for these objects internally as well, specified in the file with the lock-on names for plants. So it's definitely the most official name for these mushrooms. I think it should be mentioned in the article. The name "Sleeping Beauty" is also in the files, for a plant that according to the Pikmin Technical Knowledge Base is a "flat clover patch". — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 20:51, November 21, 2022 (EST) | :"Dusty Mushroom" is actually the name for these objects internally as well, specified in the file with the lock-on names for plants. So it's definitely the most official name for these mushrooms. I think it should be mentioned in the article. The name "Sleeping Beauty" is also in the files, for a plant that according to the Pikmin Technical Knowledge Base is a "flat clover patch". — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 20:51, November 21, 2022 (EST) | ||
::Well nice. Now, if they do have an official name different from the Spotcaps, shouldn't they have their own page instead? I see that one of the arguments to split the Kingcaps was that they have different names (other one was that they have more health, and I don't know if the Dusty Mushrooms and the Spotcaps have different health). Still, they have different names and appearance, which makes them a different species, and even if they appear in just one area, they were acknowledged by Olimar which is something I think. Also, this leaves me wondering: what was displayed when the Dusty Mushrooms were locked-on in the Wii U Pikmin 3? -[[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] ([[User talk:Kirbeat|talk]]) 22:18, November 21, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::You can't lock onto them in the original ''Pikmin 3''. As for whether they should get an article, it's hard to say. They're not especially important, which would normally mean they shouldn't get an article. But they're not Spotcaps, and they're also more important than anything in the [[Vegetation]] article, since you can interact with them and they appear on the radar. So I'm not sure. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:15, November 21, 2022 (EST) | |||
::::I am leaning more towards them having their own article, but for now I will just cover them in the Spotcap article, until more people give their opinion or something. And one thing; in [[pikmintkb:Pikmin 3 identifiers|this]] I see that apparently the Dusty Mushrooms are referred to as "Hokoritake" and the "Sleeping Beauty" as "katabami" in the files. How do you know for sure that those names are referring to those two plants? Or why did you say that the names "Dusty Mushroom" and "Sleeping Beauty" appear in the files through "Hokoritake" and "katabami"? Unless each translates directly to the other which I cannot confirm, the names are just different. -[[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] ([[User talk:Kirbeat|talk]]) 05:38, November 22, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::::I went to check the Japanese version of the notes, but they don't mention the mushrooms. They mention {{j|カタバミ|katabami|{{w|Oxalis_corniculata|sleeping beauty}}|f=tp}} and {{j|ウリカワ|urikawa|{{w|Sagittaria pygmaea|dwarf arrowhead}}|f=tp}}. Both plants are shown on [[media:Scan_48.jpeg|this scan]], and both grow on top of the creature. [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 08:32, November 22, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::::I got the names from the files. "Dusty Mushroom" is the name for <code>hokoritake</code> in the file that specifies the lock-on name of objects (even though this particular object cannot be locked-on to), and "Sleeping Beauty" is the name for <code>katabami</code> in a seemingly-unused file with the names of several plants. Perhaps the writers had access to these files but didn't consider whether the names are actually visible in-game? Regardless, they are definitely official names for these objects. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 16:06, November 22, 2022 (EST) | |||
::::::Ah alright, I see now, thanks! Also that difference in the Japanese version of Olimar's comment is interesting. -[[User:Kirbeat|Kirbeat]] ([[User talk:Kirbeat|talk]]) 07:02, November 23, 2022 (EST) | |||
== Pikmin 4 == | |||
They act like spotcaps, they appear near kingcaps like spotcaps, and the main difference between the Pikmin 3 and Pikmin 4 designs is shared with the kingcaps, so why is it that kingcaps are counted as appearing as Pikmin 4, but spotcaps aren't? [[User:2 B|2 B]] ([[User talk:2 B|talk]]) 15:13, October 5, 2023 (EDT) | |||