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At the begginning of Pikmin 2 when you first see the president,  a caption says "The President of Hocotate Freight" [[User:PaperLuigi716|PaperLuigi716]] 20:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
At the begginning of Pikmin 2 when you first see the president,  a caption says "The President of Hocotate Freight" [[User:PaperLuigi716|PaperLuigi716]] 20:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


:Yeah... Didn't the artical used to be called that? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 00:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah... Didn't the artical used to be called that? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 00:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


i don't understand why anyone would name it just "president" at all  
i don't understand why anyone would name it just "president" at all  
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Blame FlyGuy. Everything's his fault. Everything bad that is. Things become my idea what they turn out to be good. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
Blame FlyGuy. Everything's his fault. Everything bad that is. Things become my idea what they turn out to be good. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}


:Lol [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 13:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Lol [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 13:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


Okay, so...what? Are we renaming this page again? ''President'' is not his name. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
Okay, so...what? Are we renaming this page again? ''President'' is not his name. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
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::Exactly why he should be called ''The'' President. We don't call the Ship just "Ship." I can't tell if you're trying to argue against moving the page or what. o_o  {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::Exactly why he should be called ''The'' President. We don't call the Ship just "Ship." I can't tell if you're trying to argue against moving the page or what. o_o  {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::So, does anyone ''actually'' disagree that the page should be moved? This has been sitting here for quite a while now. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:::Who would dissagree??? '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
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To JJ's edit comment: I don't think it's enough of a spoiler to warrant a notice.  It's not something that would ruin the game for you, or anything.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 16:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
To JJ's edit comment: I don't think it's enough of a spoiler to warrant a notice.  It's not something that would ruin the game for you, or anything.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 16:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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I have 3 or 4 times.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 04:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I have 3 or 4 times.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 04:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


:None... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:None... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


I disagree with the President info not being a spoiler. I felt that it was a pretty cool surprise, that I wouldn't have ruined for me. Those cutscenes and the partner/ship swap were the turning point in the game for me that made it really exciting from that point on. [[User:ChozoBoy|ChozoBoy]] 05:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with the President info not being a spoiler. I felt that it was a pretty cool surprise, that I wouldn't have ruined for me. Those cutscenes and the partner/ship swap were the turning point in the game for me that made it really exciting from that point on. [[User:ChozoBoy|ChozoBoy]] 05:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


:... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::...Yes, it is an interesting thing the first time, but... ...Turning point...?--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::...Yes, it is an interesting thing the first time, but... ...Turning point...?--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}


:::...I don't know if it really is THAT big a spoiler... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:::...I don't know if it really is THAT big a spoiler... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::::I agree with Chozo, obviously, hence why he and thus I disagree with Green's disagreement to my comment. I was pretty surprised when the president said he wanted to go to Hocotate, and not only would the article have ruined that for me, but the way it's stated makes it seem so...so "Yeah, so what?" Know what I mean? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::::I agree with Chozo, obviously, hence why he and thus I disagree with Green's disagreement to my comment. I was pretty surprised when the president said he wanted to go to Hocotate, and not only would the article have ruined that for me, but the way it's stated makes it seem so...so "Yeah, so what?" Know what I mean? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}


:::::Allright... And errmm... he never said he wanted to go to ''Hocotate''... I think you meant tPotP (The Planet of the Pikmin) '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:::::Allright... And errmm... he never said he wanted to go to ''Hocotate''... I think you meant tPotP (The Planet of the Pikmin) '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::::::Huh? Oh, yeah, whoops. Lapse in attention. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::::::Huh? Oh, yeah, whoops. Lapse in attention. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}


:::::::<.< '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
:::::::<.< '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''
 
==Size==
Does anyone know his height? The Pikmin figures which were released in japan are the same size as their respective game versions, so does anyone have a figure of the President? With that a rough/exact size could be determened. {{User:Joshazilla23/Sig}}
 
:He seems pretty much like Olimar to me, and we know his heigth.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
 
::You're right, the only problem is weight. {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}
 
He probably ate too much Pikpik carrots. Thats why he's "fatter".--<span style="border:3px dashed #FF0000;background-color:lightblue">[[File:215617.gif]][[User:Pikmin fan 101|<span title="Visit my userpage!" style="color:darkgreen">''Pikmin fan 101''</span>]][[File:215617.gif]][[User talk:Pikmin fan 101|<span title="Visit my talk page and leave a comment!" style= "color:darkred"></span>]]</span>
 
But it says ?cm (? inches) for his height, his weight is 1 unit. [[File:Blue Pikmin runs P1 art.png|50px]][[User:Joshazilla23|<span style='color:blue'>Josha</span>]][[User talk:Joshazilla23|<span style='color:green'>zilla</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Joshazilla23|<span style='color:blue'>23</span>]] [[File:Olimar pulls Blue Pikmin P1 art.png|45px]] 21:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 
:Then I'll put the same as Olimar. {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}
 
That's a weird thing to make the same, but ok. {{User:MewFan128/sig}}
 
==Pikmin 3 Cameo==
Does anyone have pictures of him in the Orange suit that we can add? [[User:Ellison|Ellison]] ([[User talk:Ellison|talk]]) 15:17, 25 January 2015 (EST)
:The President in an orange suit? What do you mean? &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 18:20, 26 January 2015 (EST)
::From the main page: ''"In Pikmin 3, the President has more appearances than in Pikmin. He is seen in various different Data Files that explain controls and other mechanics. Oddly, he has an orange suit in the files, where he has a black suit with a yellow backpack in Pikmin 2. He is also referenced in some of Olimar's logs."'' [[User:Ellison|Ellison]] ([[User talk:Ellison|talk]]) 18:10, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:::Ah, yes. Well, I'll take a picture the next time I go on Pikmin 3, and I'll put it on the wiki. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:23, 31 January 2015 (EST)
::::I've added a picture now. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:11, 22 February 2015 (EST)
 
== Real Name ==
 
According to [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/p/w934/page01.html this] page, his real name is "{{j|ル・チャチョー|Ru Chachō}}".
It's like French name, so maybe "Le Chachō"? (I can't use French) -[[User:PortableSunset|PortableSunset]] ([[User talk:PortableSunset|talk]]) 22:00, March 14, 2021 (EDT)
 
:In addition, you can also find he call himself Chachō when switching the leader. -[[User:PortableSunset|PortableSunset]] ([[User talk:PortableSunset|talk]]) 06:49, March 15, 2021 (EDT)
 
::But isn't Chachō just the Japanese word for "company president"? Can a word like that be used for a person's name? &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 16:40, March 20, 2021 (EDT)
:::"Company president" is "{{j|社長|Shachō}}", not "Chachō". -[[User:PortableSunset|PortableSunset]] ([[User talk:PortableSunset|talk]]) 20:44, March 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
::::How tricky. Well, it's wiki policy to use the United States version as the most official version when possible, so I'm at a bit at a loss. On one hand, the US version does not give the character an official name, since everyone always refers to him by "the president". On the other hand, we do have an official name, Chachō, but it is not present anywhere outside of Japan...except for the name call sound that is present in all versions. Hmm. Personally, I think we should stick to "president" since that is what most wiki users expect, and that is also what feels the most comfortable to write in the wiki. I'll ask for other opinions, but either way, the article will have to be edited to include the name Chachō, as well as to rename it from "The President" to just "president" ("The" isn't part of the name, and the P should be lowercase since it's not a proper noun...) In addition, I also want to mention somewhere that {{p3d}} calls him "Hocotate president" sometimes. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:51, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
:::::How about keep his real name unknown, but also note he has official name in Japanese version? If you need, I'll prepare a screenshot from p3dx, in which his real name is noted.
:::::I don't have any idea about "the". -[[User:PortableSunset|PortableSunset]] ([[User talk:PortableSunset|talk]]) 20:55, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
::::::A screenshot might not be necessary. If you can just tell us where in the game that text can be found, and also transcribe the text, that's enough. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:39, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 12:39, April 1, 2021

Articles are usually named for full names/titles, not common names. I think this should be moved back to President of Hocotate Freight, or maybe The President of Hocotate Freight. —Jimbo Jambo

Well, he is the president of Hocotate Freight, but is never given that title. In the game manual, he is only referred to twice (once by himself...), as its [Hocotate Freight's] esteemed president and Hocotate Freight's esteemed president. Maybe that should be the article title...*cough*...GP

At the begginning of Pikmin 2 when you first see the president, a caption says "The President of Hocotate Freight" PaperLuigi716 20:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah... Didn't the artical used to be called that? ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ 00:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

i don't understand why anyone would name it just "president" at all

PaperLuigi716 02:40, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Blame FlyGuy. Everything's his fault. Everything bad that is. Things become my idea what they turn out to be good. —Jimbo Jambo

Lol ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ 13:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so...what? Are we renaming this page again? President is not his name. —Jimbo Jambo

He has no name.GP
Exactly why he should be called The President. We don't call the Ship just "Ship." I can't tell if you're trying to argue against moving the page or what. o_o —Jimbo Jambo
So, does anyone actually disagree that the page should be moved? This has been sitting here for quite a while now. —Jimbo Jambo
Who would dissagree??? I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

To JJ's edit comment: I don't think it's enough of a spoiler to warrant a notice. It's not something that would ruin the game for you, or anything.GP 16:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry... but since he sends e-mail and stuff... speaking of space e-mail, has any one gotten a message from ***SPAM?*** Pikpik carrot 00:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

i have, twice. I am rocky0718 and i PWN

I have 3 or 4 times.Masta pikmin 04:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

None... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

I disagree with the President info not being a spoiler. I felt that it was a pretty cool surprise, that I wouldn't have ruined for me. Those cutscenes and the partner/ship swap were the turning point in the game for me that made it really exciting from that point on. ChozoBoy 05:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
...Yes, it is an interesting thing the first time, but... ...Turning point...?--Prezintenden
...I don't know if it really is THAT big a spoiler... I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
I agree with Chozo, obviously, hence why he and thus I disagree with Green's disagreement to my comment. I was pretty surprised when the president said he wanted to go to Hocotate, and not only would the article have ruined that for me, but the way it's stated makes it seem so...so "Yeah, so what?" Know what I mean? —Jimbo Jambo
Allright... And errmm... he never said he wanted to go to Hocotate... I think you meant tPotP (The Planet of the Pikmin) I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.
Huh? Oh, yeah, whoops. Lapse in attention. —Jimbo Jambo
<.< I'm ~CrystalRedpikminsprite.jpgLucario~ And I approve this message.

Size[edit]

Does anyone know his height? The Pikmin figures which were released in japan are the same size as their respective game versions, so does anyone have a figure of the President? With that a rough/exact size could be determened. RWAR! ~JOSHAGozira.pngZILLA!!!~ AND IMAFIRINMAHLAZOR!!!

He seems pretty much like Olimar to me, and we know his heigth.--Prezintenden
You're right, the only problem is weight. Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

He probably ate too much Pikpik carrots. Thats why he's "fatter".--215617.gifPikmin fan 101215617.gif

But it says ?cm (? inches) for his height, his weight is 1 unit. Artwork of a Blue Pikmin running in Pikmin.Joshazilla23 Captain Olimar pulls out a flower-budded Blue Pikmin from the ground. 21:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Then I'll put the same as Olimar. Twinmold.pngSnakeboss14Twinmold.png

That's a weird thing to make the same, but ok. An idle Red Pikmin from Pikmin.Kirbysig.jpg the master--MewFan128 Mew!

Pikmin 3 Cameo[edit]

Does anyone have pictures of him in the Orange suit that we can add? Ellison (talk) 15:17, 25 January 2015 (EST)

The President in an orange suit? What do you mean? — {EspyoT} 18:20, 26 January 2015 (EST)
From the main page: "In Pikmin 3, the President has more appearances than in Pikmin. He is seen in various different Data Files that explain controls and other mechanics. Oddly, he has an orange suit in the files, where he has a black suit with a yellow backpack in Pikmin 2. He is also referenced in some of Olimar's logs." Ellison (talk) 18:10, 27 January 2015 (EST)
Ah, yes. Well, I'll take a picture the next time I go on Pikmin 3, and I'll put it on the wiki. — {EspyoT} 10:23, 31 January 2015 (EST)
I've added a picture now. — {EspyoT} 10:11, 22 February 2015 (EST)

Real Name[edit]

According to this page, his real name is "ル・チャチョー?". It's like French name, so maybe "Le Chachō"? (I can't use French) -PortableSunset (talk) 22:00, March 14, 2021 (EDT)

In addition, you can also find he call himself Chachō when switching the leader. -PortableSunset (talk) 06:49, March 15, 2021 (EDT)
But isn't Chachō just the Japanese word for "company president"? Can a word like that be used for a person's name? — {EspyoT} 16:40, March 20, 2021 (EDT)
"Company president" is "社長?", not "Chachō". -PortableSunset (talk) 20:44, March 20, 2021 (EDT)
How tricky. Well, it's wiki policy to use the United States version as the most official version when possible, so I'm at a bit at a loss. On one hand, the US version does not give the character an official name, since everyone always refers to him by "the president". On the other hand, we do have an official name, Chachō, but it is not present anywhere outside of Japan...except for the name call sound that is present in all versions. Hmm. Personally, I think we should stick to "president" since that is what most wiki users expect, and that is also what feels the most comfortable to write in the wiki. I'll ask for other opinions, but either way, the article will have to be edited to include the name Chachō, as well as to rename it from "The President" to just "president" ("The" isn't part of the name, and the P should be lowercase since it's not a proper noun...) In addition, I also want to mention somewhere that Pikmin 3 Deluxe calls him "Hocotate president" sometimes. — {EspyoT} 13:51, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
How about keep his real name unknown, but also note he has official name in Japanese version? If you need, I'll prepare a screenshot from p3dx, in which his real name is noted.
I don't have any idea about "the". -PortableSunset (talk) 20:55, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
A screenshot might not be necessary. If you can just tell us where in the game that text can be found, and also transcribe the text, that's enough. — {EspyoT} 13:39, April 1, 2021 (EDT)