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 ::::So would the new pages be [[Menu/Title screen]], [[Menu/Options]], [[Menu/Saved game selection]], [[Menu/Day selection]], [[Menu/Area selection]] (which could include Olimar's voyage log), [[Menu/Piklopedia and Treasure Hoard]], [[Menu/Onion]], [[Menu/Pause]], [[Menu/Game results]] (I think this is a better name than High Scores), [[Menu/Day results]] (could also contain the cave results), [[Menu/Challenge results]] (also contains Mission Mode results), [[Menu/Challenge Mode]], [[Menu/2-Player Battle]], [[Menu/Mission Mode]], [[Menu/Bingo Battle]], [[Menu/Bonuses]], and [[Menu/Misc.]]? That sounds like a lot of small articles, but I think it could work well. Some of the menus could be implemented into other articles, like [[Radar]]. - [[User:Botanist|Botanist]] ([[User talk:Botanist|talk]]) 17:48, September 29, 2020 (EDT)
+:::::I guess so. As we go on, it'll become easier to understand how to tackle this problem. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 16:18, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
+::::::[[Menu/Onion]] is now a thing, to test the idea. Is this a good way to implement the split? - [[User:Botanist|Botanist]] ([[User talk:Botanist|talk]]) 18:11, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
+:::::::Seems all right. I'm thinking maybe we should have a navbox, but all in due time. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:11, October 2, 2020 (EDT)
+::::::::I'm wondering if similar but slightly different menus should share subpages. The Saved Game Selection Menu in ''Pikmin'' and ''Pikmin 2'' could logically be combined with the Day Selection Menu in ''Pikmin 3'', even though they do slightly different things, because their overall function (to get the player from the main menu to the area selection menu) is the same. But if that was done, what would the subpage be called? And is it worth doing this in other situations too, such as with the Challenge Mode Menu and the Mission Mode Menu? - [[User:Botanist|Botanist]] ([[User talk:Botanist|talk]]) 01:33, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
+:::::::::Probably. Pikmin 3 effectively doesn't have a save selection menu, so we probably shouldn't treat it as such in the first place. Challenge Mode and Mission Mode could probably go into different articles. This is really case-by-case, I suppose. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:52, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
+::::::::::Alright, the page has now been split into 18 new subpages. The subpages still have a lot of work to do, but they contain all the information from the main article. Has the split been done correctly? - [[User:Botanist|Botanist]] ([[User talk:Botanist|talk]]) 19:35, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
+==Restructuring==
+The article has been split! Almost all of its information is now contained within subpages. Unfortunately, this makes the main article look terrible, and also messes up a lot of links around the wiki. I think this article really needs a major restructuring now. And since most menus are accessed from other menus leading back to the title screen, I think it would be interesting if the article was arranged in a hierarchical structure, with the main menu as the first heading, and subheadings leading to menus accessed from there, and so on until all menus accessible from other menus are present (including those that aren't even in the article yet, such as Mission Mode and Bingo Battle). In-game menus would be listed in another section in a similar way. Would that work, or is there a better way to arrange the article? - [[User:Botanist|Botanist]] ([[User talk:Botanist|talk]]) 19:35, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
+:That sounds like a fun plan, if it can be pulled off! Can you try to sketch out some hierarchy, please? I feel like it won't really work, but I'll be happy if I'm wrong. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:24, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
+::I tried to make a visualization of the menu hierarchy, but it didn't work because of all the crossovers. (For example, Options is accessed from ''Pikmin 2''{{'s}} main menu, but ''Hey! Pikmin''{{'s}} area select screen, and it'll be in the pause menu of ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe''.) For now, I'll make the basic structure 'Hub menus' (which lead to other menus and things like that) and 'Standalone menus' (which just alter or display stuff and don't lead elsewhere). - [[User:Botanist|Botanist]] ([[User talk:Botanist|talk]]) 03:06, October 9, 2020 (EDT)
+:::Right, agreed. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:56, October 9, 2020 (EDT)
+== Moving subpages? ==
+Now that most menu subpages exist and have ''Pikmin 3'' information, I wonder if using subpages was the right idea. The use of subpages make them confusing to link to. Perhaps it would be better to use [[Options menu]] instead of [[Menu/Options]], and [[Area selection screen]] instead of [[Menu/Area selection]]. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 16:27, December 7, 2020 (EST)
+:Now that the division is done, I agree. Though I think none of them should be called "X screen", they should all be "X menu" for consistency. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:37, December 8, 2020 (EST)