Editing User talk:Gulliblepikmin

== Welcome ==
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==Bulbear eye color==
Heya. In [https://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Spotty_Bulbear&curid=1590&diff=232648&oldid=230492 this edit], what artwork are you referring to? &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:22, September 18, 2022 (EDT)
:[[:File:Spotty Bulbear P1 art.png]]. It is odd considering that artwork is usually shared between the first and second games unless there are distinct in-game visual differences between them; despite that, the Spotty Bulbear doesn't have artwork of its ''Pikmin'' appearance. {{User:Cheepy/sig}}
::Ah yes. Hm, but now I wonder if that isn't actually the Pikmin 2 artwork, that simply got miscategorized... &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:13, September 18, 2022 (EDT)
It's used in the E-card artwork so it's probably from Pikmin 2, but where was this higher quality version of it used? I'm stabbing in the dark here but I'd guess it was used to promote ''New Play Control! Pikmin'' based on the fact that we also have similar high quality art for other enemies in the first ''Pikmin''. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]]

==President image sources==
You recently uploaded some high-quality official art of the President, which is great, but where did you get the images from? They're not on the websites which some of those pages currently link to as a source for the image, so you should update the image descriptions to link to the new source. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 19:27, December 9, 2022 (EST)

[https://twitter.com/PikminRenders This Twitter account]. I don't know where they got those images from, so I can't really include a source. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 21:26, December 9, 2022 (EST)

==Enemy artwork==
If you're getting frustrated adding enemy artwork to articles, why do you continue doing it? It's totally fine to leave it and come back to it later. On Pikipedia, it's common for in-progress projects to wait for several days (or even longer) before being finished. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:35, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

:Simply because I hoped someone else would do it in the few days I waited. The reason I'm doing it all right now is because if I stop, I probably wont pick it back up.
:Also, I'm not frustrated, it's just more a feeling of just doing a menial task for ages.
:So in short, I'm just getting it all out of the way right now so I wont have to deal with it later.-[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 23:38, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

:Also it's 4 in the morning right now and I have noting better to do, so I decided just to get it out of the way now. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 23:43, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

::I think you're being a bit too hasty to implement these new art images across the wiki, as there still hasn't been a discussion on them. Because while they are generally better, some have other rectangles at the edges because of how the art was close to a box in the guide. I believe these rectangles make the images far worse than the low-resolution images they're replacing, and that only the art without rectangles should be implemented on the wiki. But that's just my opinion, and this is why this whole topic needs more discussion before we can be sure about what to do. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:16, April 27, 2023 (EDT)

:::Fair, that's the reason the ones that had issues with being cropped out by screenshots also had their lower quality counterparts kept in the gallery. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 18:27, April 27, 2023 (EDT)

Alright, now it's time to have a discussion about whether the new ''Pikmin 2'' artwork images are actually necessary. They may be much higher-resolution than the old images on the wiki, but are they higher-quality? I'd argue no. The large size exposes many weird artifacts that make large blocks of color and gradients look strange. The low-resolution images are smooth in comparison. The artifacts are probably a consequence of the printing and scanning process, and are visible on the scan of the guide you got the images from. The file format is also not ideal, as the scanned pages have lossy image compression, so the main benefit of PNG is undermined. And then there's the fact that many of these images have blocks of color near the edge because they overlap with screenshot boxes in the guide. This alone makes these images much worse for demonstrating the enemy's appearance, since people will notice the box. I appreciate the work you did to get and upload these images, but it's hard to say whether we actually need them. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 22:59, June 5, 2023 (EDT)

:I'd say they're worth keeping due to how the lower resolution images have terrible contrast issues and a weird green tint, but yeah, your points are valid. What's really needed is a full rescan of all of the treasure and enemy artwork, like what happened with the Ken Sugimori Pokemon artwork of all the Pokemon from gen 1 and 2. Also, the reason why I saved all the artwork as .pngs in the first place is so that if and/or when higher quality versions of all the pieces of artwork are found, all that'll need to be done is pressing the "Upload a new version of this file" button a bunch of times. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 08:14, June 6, 2023 (EDT)

::The color balance is a good point and something I didn't consider. Still, I think we should definitely delete all the images where boxes are in the frame, and for the other new images, treat the old ones as the primary artwork images and the new ones as a variant. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:33, June 6, 2023 (EDT)

::Fine by me. I still have all the artwork saved to my computer in case they're needed again.
== Pikmin 3 Deluxe White Pikmin ==

After speaking with Espyo about the White Pikmin, we came to the conclusion that line should be removed due to it not being proven, as of now, for all enemies. He said "ONE enemy taking fewer White Pikmin doesn't mean all of them, until proven". If there is proof that the amount of White Pikmin it takes to kill each enemies is less or equal for all enemies compared to Pikmin 2, then I understand. If one enemy takes more White Pikmin to kill it than Pikmin 2 there hasn't been a buff to the poison power, there has been a restructure of the White Pikmin poison. '''{''[[User:KawaiiKiwii|Kiwii]]''<sub>[[User talk:KawaiiKiwii|''(talk)'']]</sub>}''' 21:43, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

:Fair reasoning. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 22:09, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

== Emperor Bulblax eyelids ==
About that edit, how can the player see through the inside of the eyelids if the eyeballs are in the way? &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:44, May 7, 2023 (EDT)

:Simple, the eyelids aren't connected to the eyeballs. What I'm talking about both here and in my edit can be just barely seen for Pikmin 1's Emperor in the image "Reel8 Emperor Bulblax.png" and quite easily seen for Pikmin 2's Emperor in the image "Pikmin 2 Emperor Bulblax.png". If you still aren't convinced, here's a link to a reply that I made to a tweet when first discovering this: [https://twitter.com/Gulliblepikmin/status/1651287421189750788] It contains an image that I made showing my discovery. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 11:47, May 7, 2023 (EDT)