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==Locking==
== Chatroom Admin ==
GP, do you think it's possible if you can lock this wiki from further editing by anons? For the past week, we've got nothing but spam and it's really annoying for everyone. They also create pages with sexual content in other languages and it takes a while for those to be deleted since there is usually no one on. It's also not a hassle to create an account. If they want to edit here so badly, they can. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


:Well, I don't know about Greenpickle, but I check the [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] every day, and anon edits catch my eye. Even if it's on pages that are rarely used, they're caught pretty quickly. As for blocking anon edits, remember that that also means that some typos or small stuff may be left unaltered. For instance, if I'm browsing a wiki and notice a typo, I'll edit the page and the change it. If, however, anon edits are disabled, I will not create an account just for a typo. The current spam edits aren't too bothersome, so I vote for leaving anon edits on, for now. If things get out of hand, I guess we could block them. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:50, 7 January 2011 (EST)
Hey can I be an chatroom admin or whatever they're called? I've been a loyal user here since the dark age of Pikipedia, have well over 500 edits, and have much more experience than I did before. If that's not enough, I'll continue my work here (which is to correct edits made by n00bs and defend my fellow gamers) albeit with spotty activity.--[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 21:49, 20 September 2010 (EDT)


::I guess so. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
:I've never seen you in the chatroom (maybe it's just timezones). Have you got a registered nickname? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:::I'm with Espyo.  Wikis are about openness: look at the amount of anon. vandalism Wikipedia gets.  And I'm not sure where you're getting the data to back up your claim from: [{{fullurl:Special:RecentChanges|days=7|hideliu=1}} anon. edits in last 7 days] (I tried to get the edits starting from when you asked, but apparently MW has a bug or something.  I see 4 bad edits (2 unintentional) and 4 good edits, not counting Snakeboss's when logged out.
::I do now, and I'm not on that often because of school, soccer, and the fact that both I and my friends LOVE to play Halo Reach. Other than that, I'm on fairly often.[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 07:26, 27 September 2010 (EDT)


:::I'll remind you that JJ, who's done a lot of work here, made a lot of edits anonymously before we convinced him to sign up - would he have, if the wiki were closed to it? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
== Move to MediaWiki and alliance with NIWA ==


:I'm starting to notice that the spam is becoming a bit persistent. [[User:Gamefreak75|Gamefreak75]] is doing a good job on it, but it's becoming a bother. Maybe we can block anon edits for a week or so? Didn't that solve spam problems in the past? I'm not sure. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 19:22, 10 January 2011 (EST)
When did all this happen? [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] 20:11, 8 October 2010 (EDT)


::Hmm...  Iunno, is it that much of a bother?  Give it a few more days; if it gets worse doesn't get much better, maybe then? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:Move to MediaWiki?  We've always used MediaWiki.  We moved away from Wikia at the start of September. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:::The only thing that really, ''really'' makes me confused is that these spam edits don't make any sense. Advertising onto a website makes perfect sense. Just saying thank you for a page sounds like the work that a child with mental disorders would do. What's the profit in that? Even if the profit is to vandalize, these spam edits nowadays are hardly any bother. It's just a waste of time on the spammer's part. But I suppose we can wait a little longer to see if things calm down a bit. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:57, 12 January 2011 (EST)
::While, ''if'' you count wikia as MediaWiki. The version they use is modified from the original software. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}


::::Yeah, I don't get it either.  Maybe they do add a URL, but MW filters it out or something? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
== Main Page ==


I hope everyone is fine that I locked the "Talk:Queen Candypop Bud" page from anon edits for a week. No one had edited it since 2009 before the spam, and right now it's the only page being consistently spammed. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}
Hey! You seem to be the only bureaucrat and I cannot find a suggestions page so I'll say it here. I was wondering, if you look at the [[Main Page]], it is good. But I created a new main page which I think would work better as the main page at [[User:Pikminguy1/Test]]. I think this new main page is a good idea, it contains more information and does not expand the length of the page from what it used to be. It contains all of the knowledge from the former main page (I removed the <nowiki><choose></nowiki> tags however, they were a good idea but they didn't work well...in my opinion, if you want a main page with the choose tags, see [[User:Pikminguy1/Test2]]). Anyways, the key point of my suggested main page is that it contains a new box, "Recent news!". I was originally gonna suggest you add a box without an example but I decided that it is more explanatory to show people that changes that I am talking about, so, [[User:Pikminguy1/Test|this]] and [[User:Pikminguy1/Test2|this]] - do you like either of them? Would you consider making them the current design of the main page? Hope this isn't too long, yours truly, [[User:Pikminguy1|Pikminguy1]] [[User talk:Pikminguy1|(My Talk Page)]].


:Yeah, may as well try. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:Hmm, yeah, the option stuff is more a remnant from when we had 3+ things to choose from, so the left column would be a lot longer; and the featured image wasn't in the right column, so it was shorter.  I've removed it.  About a news box, I do understand that most other wikis have them, and we used to, but we just never had any news for long periods of time - now just seems to be quite a busy time, what with the move.  The site notice can cope with everything that does happen sufficiently.  Of course, it's not up to me to decide, and if you still think we should have one, [[Forum:Watercooler|start a topic]]. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


==Old link in a video==
== Logo ==
Huh, just one tiny thing. I've watched some of your YouTube videos, and the one with the <s>[[</s>Wollywog glitch<s>]]</s>, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5ye2sX57w has a link to Pikmin ''wikia'' in the description. You should update that. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:16, 25 January 2011 (EST)


:Oh, I completely forgot about those links; I've changed it and two others. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
Since this seems to be a pressing issue now, I threw together an example of what I was talking about with the text over the flower. [http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5011/pikipedia2.png] My text abilities are really limited in Gimp, so I only had a few fonts and couldn't do the outline thing you had, but that's the basic idea. I liked your idea of using white text with an outline the same color as the flower. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 14:23, 10 October 2010 (EDT)


==Enemy notes problem==
:Yeah, I did link a couple before you left that time, but you must not have seen it:
There's one small detail that's going wrong with the [[:Template:Notes|notes template]]. That "<nowiki>{{#ifexist:{{PAGENAME}}/reel|===Reel notes===
<pre>[21:37:55] <Greenpickle> 'kay
"<em>{{/reel}}</em>"}}</nowiki> is trying to check for a reel page. However, the wiki still thinks it WANTS the reel page. In other words, check out the [[Special:WantedPages|wanted pages]]. There are tons about <Pikmin 2 enemy>/reel. (Also, off-topic, are you still "gone away for a few days"?) '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:09, 26 January 2011 (EST)
[21:44:02] <Greenpickle> http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1852/52077825.png
:Actually, I guess that ALL nonexistent pages are being requested. Not just /reel for ''Pikmin 2'' enemies, but /olimar for ''Pikmin'' enemies, as well as a few others. Also, [[User:The_Shadow_Of_Death]] has a link to Runescape on his page, and this user seems to have abandoned the wiki for a while. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:37, 26 January 2011 (EST)
[21:44:05] <Greenpickle> http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3301/98715249.png
[21:44:06] <Greenpickle> ?</pre>


:See [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=740.79#msg_16614 here], starting from post 79.  And no, I'm not still away - something else I completely forgot about... <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:I was going to ask everyone today, anyway.  I'll get to that in a bit. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


::I see. If I recall correctly, I had a similar problem in Carmageddon Wikia. I'll try to find out what I did to fix it.
== Wikia is pissed ==
:::No, I used a different method that doesn't work in this case. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:46, 27 January 2011 (EST)


==Spam pages==
GP, take a look at your talk page on the old wiki: http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Greenpickle
Protecting spam pages keeps them from being re-created. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}</s>
Essentially, they've written the following:


Never, mind. They wouldn't use the same pages again. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}
:''Hello,''


== Uploading images ==
:''We have noticed the sitenotice and anonnotice are directing people away from using this wiki and make it appear as if this wiki will be closing. We need the community to be aware that they are welcome to stay, and that the wiki will remain open. Community members are welcome to edit here, there or on both. Please change your message to reflect this. Thank you, Sarah@Wikia (Help Forum) (blog) 20:38, October 11, 2010 (UTC)''
Hello, I'm attempting to upload new images to replace older ones (you know, newer versions of the images) but when I tried to, it came up with this message: "A file with this name already exists, and cannot be overwritten. If you still want to upload your file, please go back and use a new name." Can you please remove this restriction in order for me to proceed? --[[User:RAP|RAP]] 00:40, 2 March 2011 (EST)


:Hmm, I don't know why that'd be, since I think you have to explicitly turn it off.  I'll check with Porple. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
::''Hi, I'm not sure if you are going to be back to do this, so I'll make the change. Thanks -- Sannse@Wikia (help forum | blog) 23:58, October 11, 2010 (UTC)''


::See [[User talk:Porplemontage#reuploads|the reply]]; you need to make a couple more edits before you can reupload files. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
They don't want people to leave, but they don't want to change the themes neither! Ah! Do you plan on doing something about the removal of the warning? Do you know already if the wikis at Wikia can be deleted? '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:02, 12 October 2010 (EDT)


== These might serve a purpose. ==
:I've seen it.  I'll come up with some wording that satisfies them.  No, I don't think they can be deleted. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
[[File:Piklopediaicons.png]]


:I foresee a possible icon usage here, they are pretty good quality. Maybe for the Enemy templates next to the name above the main image? {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
Did you here what happened on wikia? Major CSS problem.  


::I'm not sure what you (or someone else) did to the original, but the outlines got messed up.  I reuploaded the original (where I found it, anyway) but without bothering to do the rearrangement you (or someone else) did (and it's also a smaller file). Also moved it from PD to fairuse, since whatever the guy who ripped it thinks he can release it as, they're copyrighted sprites from the game.  As for use, that ''could'' work (I'd have to see it) - and maybe they could be useful at [[Piklopedia]], like we did with [[Treasure Hoard]].  How complete is it (no time to check now)? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
''"Monaco is currently experiencing some issues in which CSS is being stripped, which causes the pages to look broken. We're working on resolving this issue ASAP and Monaco will not remain looking like this - don't worry."''


:::Sorry, I'm the one who did the rearrangement. I had a "different original" that was ripped by someone else (that was very messy), and I was doing the best I could to fix it up. As a side note, when I uploaded it on Pikmin Fanon I did not list it as in public domain. I counted the images, there are 84, whereas the Piklopedia entries only go to 81, which I'm guessing means it is completed. Right off I can see that the [[Queen Candypop Bud]] and the [[Glowstem]] are repeats. However many other repeats there are I don't know. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}
Heh heh. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}


::It does seem like a good idea to use them on the [[Piklopedia]] article. They might not work that well for enemy articles, though (even if they're put inside the [[:Template:Infobox enemy|infobox]]). We'll have to, however, separate them. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 06:47, 10 March 2011 (EST)
:Heh, even more CSS errors on wikia.


:::[https://pikminfanon.com/w/index.php?title=User:Zoadra&oldid=28811 I have all of the enemies separated.] The only problem is that I don't have any bosses and any plants separated, just enemies. But don't worry, I can separate them pretty quickly. About ''where'' we would put them would have to be on the [[Piklopedia]] article on the table right after or before the species name. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
:''"There are some issues at the moment with CSS caching, the tech guys are working on it and it should be fixed soon... sorry about this all."''{{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}


::::Uploaded them all separately.  There were 81, so they're probably all there. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> 10:38, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
::Fun.  Well, apparently by 'Please change your message to reflect this.', they meant 'remove all mention of a competing wiki altogether', so I didn't get to re-word it.  Not surprising, I guess...  Edit: oh, just noticed Espyo had the bit at 8:58 in what he quoted, but I saw it between those two and didn't catch it until now. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


==Hi==
== Consistency ==
:Me Jello Rabbit. Seeing that there are no active bureaucrats on the Pikmin Wikia can I become a sysop there. Thank you -Jello Rabbit from Wikia.


::...Don't feel like editing here instead?
Alright Green,I have a proposal. I say we model all of the enemie "How to Kill" Sections like this:


::...Wait, you know you have a total of 11 edits there, right? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
<pre>==How to Kill==
This section is entitled, "How to Kill", not Killing Strategies or Strategy.


:::Yeah, but someone has to still help the wiki and guard it from spam and vandalism. jello Rabbit. And I might edit here if I have some time willing to fo it.
===Pikmin===
This section will be on every page. Even if you cant kill the enemy, like Flint Beetles, a way to damage or attack the ememy must be listed.  


::::Well, I don't see why not.  Done. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
===Captains===
This section will show up even if you can't kill and enemy with the Captains.</pre>


:::::Me, Jello Rabbit. My sysop powers on Pikmin Wikia is great! I am taking care of it seeing of the move here. Do you think that is great? [[User:Jello Rabbit|Jello Rabbit]] 07:35, 7 May 2011 (EDT)
Either way, if we decide not to use this model, the Enemy pages nned to be more consistent. '''[[User:Ridly|<span style="color:darkBlue;">Ridly</span>]] [[Image:Metroid.gif]] <small><sup>[[User Talk:Ridly|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Screech!</span>]]</sup></small>''' 07:03, 15 October 2010 (EDT)


::::::Do I think your sysop powers are great?  What kind of question is that? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:We had a thread about this, but it was never resolved. I think "Strategy" is the best option, as that's exactly what it is. As Green pointed out, you're not always killing enemies, such as with Flint Beetles which you even mentioned. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} 10:12, 15 October 2010 (EDT)


:::::::I said, "Do you think it is great that I am taking care on Pikmin Wikia during the community's inactiveness there". [[User:Jello Rabbit|Jello Rabbit]] 07:50, 7 May 2011 (EDT)
::Yeah, I just started using 'strategy' when we never reached a decision.  See it [[Forum:Strategy sections|here]], and continue the discussion if you want. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


::::::::Oh. Not particularly. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
==Edit port==
:::::::::Why? You rather think I should have sysop powers here? [[User:Jello Rabbit|Jello Rabbit]] 07:57, 7 May 2011 (EDT)
Oops, my bad. I'm pretty sure I wanted to port either [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Hole_of_Heroes&diff=prev&oldid=59023 this] or [http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Hole_of_Heroes&diff=next&oldid=59023 this]. And seeing as I'm not sure if the info on those edits is appropriate or not, I'd rather leave my port uncorrected.
Also, about [http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Easter_eggs_and_glitches&curid=371&diff=56136&oldid=56092 this], the only reason I wrote that otherwise obvious sentence was because... well, ~70% of the additions to that list are completely unorganized. Most of them add new sections, and don't even use <nowiki>===X===</nowiki>. It's like those warnings in rat poison. Nobody would ever think about eating it, but thanks to some people, almost every can of poison and such needs to have an obvious 'don't eat' warning. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:29, 20 October 2010 (EDT)


::::::::::...Not quite.  I just don't see the point in cleaning up the old wiki when everyone's moved here. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
== ''Pikmin'' map markers ==
:::::::::::Even old wikis need cleanup. So... can I have the rights here too to do some cleanup on some houskeeping pages and badly named files? [[User:Jello Rabbit|Jello Rabbit]] 08:01, 7 May 2011 (EDT)


You don't need any rights to move pages. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
I've added them like I said I would... but the wiki hasn't updated the image yet. Also, I'm pretty sure I accidentally chose the wrong textures, so the bubbles are bigger than they should be. This is, however, a good thing, so the markers on the map will be easier to identify. Also, couldn't you obtain the world map without the sunshine effect on the top-left corner? In ''Pikmin'', the sunshine was a different texture. Is it merged with the map background itself in ''Pikmin 2''? '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 17:08, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
:I know that. I wanted to delete some housekeeping stuff here too. I am the rollback guy on Pokemon Wikia so... just to tell you. I am new that is why I can't move pages. [[User:Jello Rabbit|Jello Rabbit]] 08:07, 7 May 2011 (EDT)


::You're not even autoconfirmed and you're asking for admin rights? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:Wait, why isn't this on template talk:areas?  No, the markers you added look nice.  Yeah, the light was separate.  I thought it looked weird without it, though, and was going for something as close to what you see in-game as I could manage.  Do you think it would be better to remove it? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:::I am, but the sysop powers can wait. [[User:Jello Rabbit|Jello Rabbit]] 09:31, 7 May 2011 (EDT)
== Adminship... again ==


==Bcrat on Pikmin Wikia==
Yes, it seems I was an idiot and lost my password. Either that or I was hacked. So I had to create another account, and I was asking you to give me THE POWER again. [[User:Snakeboss16|Snakeboss16]] 22:05, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
:Seeing that there are no active b-crats on the Pikipedia on Wikia. Think you could promote me to one there? We need a healthy wiki growing there too. [[User:Jello Rabbit|Jello Rabbit]] 06:19, 14 June 2011 (EDT)


::I don't see why we do, but sure. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:Greenpickle, check this guy to see if he has the same IP address as Snakeboss. --[[User:Gamefreak75|Gamefreak75]]


== Badges ==
::I checked. Snakeboss has never logged in from that IP before. Plus I can't imagine Snakeboss saying something like THE POWER. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}
Hi Green, I'm Blueflower999. I just joined the independent Pikipedia today. I noticed that a lot of the users have badges on their user page that says something like, "This user speaks fluent Leet" or, "This user likes Breadbugs". Can you show me how to make them? [[User:Blueflower999|Bulbear! Blueflower999]] 09:51, 20 July 2011 (EDT)


:The easiest way is to use [[Template:Userbox]]; see [[Help:Editing#Templates and inclusions]] for how to use templates.  You can also try [[:Category:Pikipedia userboxes]] for examples (edit them to see what code goes into them), but I don't think many, if any, use the template.  Of course, you can just use any of those examples yourself as well, by transcluding them (''<nowiki>{{namespace:page name}}</nowiki>'').
:::No, but he clearly has a dynamic IP address and the one of this account is a close match to those of the old one.  Of course, without some kind of better proof (this is why people put their public GPG keys on their user pages), we can't just promote this account.  Ideas? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:...Oh, and sorry for taking so long to answer this; I was on holiday for a few days. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> 16:24, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
:::Oh, it's unlikely someone else has access to your account, as then their IP address would appear in the list. So...remember harder. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
Thanks Greeny! [[User:Blueflower999|Bulbear! Blueflower999]] 21:36, 23 July 2011 (EDT)


== About your "Pikmin Weights" section ==
::::So then I'm screwed? I'll keep trying to remember my password. LOL, I actually say things like THE POWER a lot with my friend, but it's the first time here. [[User:Snakeboss16|Snakeboss16]] 18:00, 22 October 2010 (EDT)


I remember wondering that too, as I played Pikmin 2 the Ship stated that Yellow Pikmin are "light" and "nimble". My guess is that the yellow Pikmin's ear acts as a sort of wing, or air catcher so it glides higher. I know that isn't right because the Pikmin "roll" in the air, but Nintendo didn't intend for the game to be exactly right. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
I remembered the password! Yes, it was actually, me, {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}. I got THE POWER again! :P


== No more Wikia pain!! ==
:Why was your IP different? {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}


I found a code that will redirect users from the old Pikipedia on wikia to here.  
::I said, dynamic IP. It's not uncommon. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


<code>
:::What's dynamic IP? {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}
:if ( wgUserGroups === null || typeof( wgUserGroups ) != null && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'staff' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'helper' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'vstf' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'sysop' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'bureaucrat' ) == -1 ) { window.location = 'http://pikminwiki.com/wiki/' + wgPageName;
}
</code>
:Put it in Pikmin Wikia's Common.JS and you'll be good to go. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}


::That's pretty awesome, but the guys at Wikia being the children they are, they'd notice traffic drops on that wiki immediately and would find out that script is redirecting users from their crap domain. They'd remove the script and probably ban whoever added the script from Wikia. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 17:33, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
::::It's what it sounds like.  It just ''means'' an IP that changes.  Many ISPs assign IP addresses dynamically because they only have so many they can allocate, so they need to free them up when some users disconnect - they don't actually have enough to handle every user they have, if they were all online at once. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


== ==
I honestly think that the anon you just blocked should have a longer ban, tbh. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


:::I think Wikia staff don't get redirected, and they don't look at the relatively small wikis usually unless they ask for help.  I doubt they would notice it, they don't seem to have on the wikia Pikmin Fanon.{{User:Sir Pikmin/sig}}
:Meh.  It's very unlikely he'll be back.  For all we know, although even more unlikely, someone else at that address with better intentions might want to edit here some day, and it's better to have vandalism and good edits than no edits at all. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
 
::::When we tried posting message boxes that told people we moved, they quickly noticed it and removed it. You sure they don't care now? If not, then we can put it. Alas, I can't do it either, I edit some Wikias too. Maybe we can create a quick temporary account and add it. If they ban that temp account, there'll be no loss. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 21:08, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:::Right, but who cares if you ''do'' get banned? I'm never gonna help wikia again! It's all really their loss. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}


::::Green edits on a couple Wikia wikis it seems, so he may care if he gets banned.{{User:Sir Pikmin/sig}}
==Changing the old wikia's name==
Since Wikia doesn't want us to call people to the moved Pikipedia, I suggest changing the old Pikipedia's name to something that indicates that it's outdated and/or abandoned. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 16:30, 25 October 2010 (EDT)


:::::Oh, well, It's his decision. A couple of wikis on wikia or more Pikipedia traffic. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
:Hmm, I guess, maybe.  What, just Pikmin Wiki? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


::::::Link to page and I'll do it. Idk where it is...--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::I was thinking something like "Pikmin Wikia - The old wiki about Pikmin", but perhaps a bit better. It wouldn't tell users where it has moved to, but it would at least stop them from editing there. Also, naming it Pikmin Wikia could help differentiate between the old and new Pikipedia, but that's not too important. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:18, 26 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I would like to point out that Wikia may quite easily spot this conversation if the code is added, then ban the people who have been planning in public here. Besides, if you just create another account, they will find any other accounts which use the same IP very easily, and most proxies are banned already. Not a good idea to do it. --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:43, 7 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Indeed. We could create a new account on a public computer or something, but the fact that this convo is here is still bad. This could all be avoided if they would just stop being so proud of their shameful site. There was even a discussion <s>[here]</s> about one of the admins' stubbornness. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:16, 7 August 2011 (EDT)


:::::::::That seems absurd. What right would they have to ban you for just thinking about something? I'd be the one who did it, and I don't plan on using my account there anymore anyway. At the very least they'd have to warn us once, and if they notice it immediately, then there's no use of trying again anyway. Really, I doubt it will cause much harm to anyone.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
:::Oh, that's your aim; I thought it was mainly disassociating it from us. I was going to say see that forum, but you already have. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


::::::::::And just because there is hardly any traffic to the old Pikipedia makes it all the more easy, like for instance, Pikmin Fanon has that code, and I put it on there a while ago. They are too busy with the wikia wikis that matter to even notice. Just put the code at the end of the Common.js on Wikia Pikipedia, simple. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
== Hey Green ==


I... Don't think it worked. It's redirecting me to Special:WikiActivity. /coding extraordinaire  --{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
It's me >.> I missed too damn much >.> Every time >.> Damn life >.> Well tell me what's up >.> Am I still Admin? >.> Damn I feel awkward >.> [[User:Crystal lucario|Crystal lucario]]


I added the code to common.js AND common.css on Pikmin Fanon. Btw, try to get on Fanon. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
:And yes I'll be back >.> I jsut had a LOT going on >.> ask me about it later or something >.> [[User:Crystal lucario|Crystal lucario]]


PS: I would add it to as much as I could if I were you, as that's what I did on Pikmin Fanon, and it works. Oh and you have to log out to get redirected, because of you being a admin or bureaucrat. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
::Heeeeeey.  Well, uh...we moved.  (I put a notice up at the old wiki about it and Wikia took it down...)  We have a new admin (Volatile Dweevil).  You should vote on [[Forum:Policy|policy]].  I'll promote you right now. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:It worked the first time I went on fanon, but when I went again in a new tab it stayed on the wikia site. Bleh. Does it work for anyone else? I'll leave it just to see how the staff reacts, anyway.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
:::Oh... Well... Dammit I would miss that >.> [[User:Crystal lucario|Crystal lucario]]


Ok, it works for the most part. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
== Random off-topic pages ==
 
:Not working for me. Also, common.css is a stylesheet file. common.js is a script file. That function is a Javascript function. So... Adding that to common.css is completely pointless, heh. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 21:05, 7 August 2011 (EDT)
 
::It's working for me. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
:::It's not redirecting me. I tried clearing the cache, and then tried again logged out. No dice. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 20:40, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
 
::::Well, I guess we can forget about it, It doesn't do anything too big. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
 
:::::It's not working because there's some faulty code on the page, higher up (and Wikia does some silly stuff to mask it so you don't see it in an error console anywhere...).  I'm not particularly for this thing, though, because of the message it sends: it only says to Wikia and the regular editors over there that we're immature.
 
:::::OTOH, I don't really care about the old wiki.  But I don't want my account banned.  What I've done, then, is fix the error, clean up the new code 'cause I have OCD, and comment it out, then whoever wants to can uncomment it (remove /* before and */ after) to make it live. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> 05:25, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
 
== Rename Request ==
 
Can you rename me to "'''Wraith'''"? {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
 
Thanks, and can I have OP for the chatroom on Pikmin Fanon's behalf? {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
 
:...No idea who renamed you.  Wait, you think you've been renamed, right?  'Cause it says Peanut64 no longer exists, and you're using Wraith.  Going to sort out your old userpages?
 
:You need to register an account on there first (do ''/msg nickserv help'' for details) - or if you have already, tell me the nick. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> 03:38, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:The nick is Wraith, but Idk how to sign in once I restart the chat. {{User:Peanut64/sig}}
 
== Hey Green. ==
 
~Crystal
 
:... <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
::Hnnnnng oh god --{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
 
== New Spammer/Vandal (?) ==
 
Hey Green. In case you didn't notice there's a new user who's been adding weird stuff to the pages. I undid the edits; my guess is he'll keep this bad behaviour up, and if it does, well... {{User:PikFan23/sig}}
:His only edit that actually made some sense was for the remaining Pikmin type's carrying speed. Which was obvious, but didn't necessarily mean the others' 1.0 speed was implied. They aren't multipliers, we know that much, so they could have different values. But I digress. I can't understand if this is is a vandal that's mixing good-hearted edits in to blend in, or if he's just confused. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 04:42, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
 
:Oh wow, you actually think this guy is being malicious?  All of those edits are obviously experiments and/or well-intentioned additions by some young kid.  Not to mention that even if this were a vandal, 5 or so edits isn't exactly anything to get worked up about. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 05:56, 4 August 2012 (EDT)
 
==''Sutera cordata''==
Did you know that the flower on the Pikmin heads have been confirmed to be based off the flower ''Sutera cordata''?  [[Wikipedia:Sutera cordata|Wikipedia]] has a couple of sources confirming it, but I have stuff to do, and cannot do the big research.  Can you please look into it?  --[[Special:Contributions/74.105.210.39|74.105.210.39]] 17:56, 5 August 2012 (EDT)
 
:[[Bacopa Cabana|See here]]. {{User:PikFan23/sig}}
::I hate to respond to an old topic, but why is '''Sutera cordata''' not a redirect?  --[[Special:Contributions/173.70.30.225|173.70.30.225]] 10:58, 3 March 2013 (EST)
 
:::Because no-one thought to create it.  I've done it now. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 13:06, 5 March 2013 (EST)
 
== ==
Hey Green, could you tell me how to change the font size and color for my sig, and how to add a picture to it? [[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]])


:See [[Help:FAQ]] and [[Help:Editing]]. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 18:58, 19 December 2012 (EST)
I was looking through [[Special:WantedPages|WantedPages]], and I found that there are quite a few things that shouldn't be there, especially Halo: Reach. Are pages like this and this meant to be here, or were they accidentally imported when moving from Wikia? --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 19:57, 27 October 2010 (EDT)


Should we add on the Leader article that, if a leader is disbanded and you leave near an enemy, he will run away of his own accord? I'm only asking here because apparently nobody goes on the Leader talk page. [[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]]) 23:57, 30 December 2012 (EST)
:Yeah, I noticed that.  They've only appeared in the last few days - actual pages exist too - and a search gives them as being [[wikia:c:halo:127th Regiment|from Halopedia]] (which is odd, 'cause even if they were moving, they're not Nintendo so wouldn't join NIWA).  It's similar to [[Forum:What in the world happened just now?|what happened a few days (?) ago]], but on a smaller scale.  I'll ask Porplemontage. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:I added it, check and see if you wish to change/add something. Feel free to just make simple edits like that. If somebody thinks it's not right, they'll just change it again later; there's no need to ask for permission on these trivial edits.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
:[http://www.halopedian.com/127th_Regiment Ah]. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


==Crystal Lucario==
::Yeah, I know real pages exist, I linked to two existing ones. So is this something that you have to go and delete the pages, or it will just disappear? --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 20:31, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
By the way Green, is Crystal still active? If not, is he ever coming back? After all, he actually was pretty entertaining, though I'm hesitant to say he was nice. [[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]]) 23:18, 4 January 2013 (EST)


:He hasn't been on the wiki for a long time, no. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 18:07, 5 January 2013 (EST)
:::Ah, I didn't see that.  While it would be interesting to find out what happens if I delete one (I guess either we'd just lose it, it'd give me an error, or it would actually be deleted from that independent Halopedia too), I don't think it'll be necessary.  Just wait a bit, see what Porple says.  Probably best not to try to edit them either. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
::::Sorry about this, but I just removed the links because they were adding the pages to wanted pages. --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:32, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
:::::Oh, and I found some more that were missed: Halo: Evolutions - Essential Tales of the Halo Universe and Civilian Emergency Instructions/Arcadia State of Emergency. Make sure to delink them after they are deleted or they will show up in Wanted Pages. --[[pkmn:User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:39, 1 November 2010 (EDT)


==Chatroom==
==I'm Back!!==
Whenever I go to the Chatroom, it says that I've been banned from the Chatroom. I haven't said anything bad on the Chatroom, and my account Is completely normal, so I'm wondering why this happened. I don't know if you can help or not, but it thought you would be the most likely person who would be able to help me. -[[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]])


:Only one person is banned from the chatroom, and this person repeatedly impersonated other people.  If this wasn't you, it was someone else in your household. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 04:00, 6 February 2013 (EST)
Not sure if you remember me from a '''while''' back, but I am back, more mature, and '''A LOT''' more knowledgeable with Wiki coding. Anyways, I just stopped by to say hi. --[[w:c:sims:User:Eduardog3000|Eduardog]][[User talk:Eduardog3000|3000]]


Well, it wasn't me, and the only other people in my house are my parents, and I highly doubt they would not only go on this wiki, which they probably don't even know the URL to, but go to the Chatroom, and impersonate other people. And, again, I doubt they know the usernames to anybody on this wiki. And finally, once again, I am truthful in saying that I didn't do it. -[[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]])
:...Hi. The name sounds familiar, at any rate. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:The ban will last for 4 more days. There really isn't any other likely explanation for the fact that this ban is affecting you.  It's possible, but ''really'' unlikely, that someone else is doing this and their IP just happened to match what yours is now - but really, there's no way that's the case.  And I guess there's the possibility  someone else has gained unauthorised access to your computer, but you probably would've noticed that. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 14:43, 6 February 2013 (EST)
==Green!==
GP, I need your help. Do you think it is possible for you to make a bot that can import items from a wikia to a wiki, specifically Kirby Wikia to Wikirby? --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


The ban has passed, and the Chatroom now works fine. However, a couple minutes ago, I went onto the Chatroom, and one of the users kicked me out once again. I have tried to get back on, but it now says I am banned again. Do I have to wait another four days, maybe more, again? Is there any way you can unblock me? -[[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]])
:Items? Can't you just use special:export/import? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


:No, it's the same ban - it hasn't expired yet.  There are 8 hours left. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 05:31, 10 February 2013 (EST)
::Problem is, I am completely horrible with such mediawiki techonology or whatever it. :( --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


== Pikmin 3 page ==
:::By items, do you mean all pages, or pages about items?  You need a list: would it be special:allpages for each namespace, or something like category:items? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


Is the Pikmin 3 page protected for non-autoconfirmed users? Who can edit it? There is a lot of false info on there. --[[User:SuperLuigiBros.|SuperLuigiBros.]] ([[User talk:SuperLuigiBros.|talk]]) 17:49, 7 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Every single thing like we did for here. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


:It is.  If you have specific things that need immediate attention, bring it up on the talk; otherwise, you'll be autoconfirmed in no time. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 05:45, 8 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::Well, all pages can be transferred using special:import/export, and that's what I did here; but since it's a merger, you need to merge them manually to avoid conflicts.  What Lylat Wiki did to merge Arwingpedia transfer everything to the Arwingpedia: namespace (edit exported XML file), then merge everything manually from there.  What this can't do is transfer images, though; for that, I could do something, but [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg8391#msg8391 this] is better because it preserves past versions of the image, and their uploaders.  It looks quite involved, though, and requires root access, so you'd have to talk to whoever has access to the serve. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>


==Wii U==
==Blocking==
I haven't seen any talk pages where you've confirmed it, so: Do you happen to have a Wii U? Somewhat against my expectations, Europe is next to receive Pikmin 3 (and then, Australia, and finally North America... What?). You and Prezintenden, among possibly other users here, live in Europe. Do you have already have a Wii U so that you can buy Pikmin 3 and update pages with new information as quickly as possible? -[[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]])
Does Pikipedia have a policy on blocking? I'm not quite sure if I should or should not have blocked [[User:Turtwig389|this user]]. Should I have given a warning first? {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}


:No, unfortunately I don't, but we'll see.  I should probably mention that I might actually become (more) inactive for a while soon because of stuff.  Espyo's in Europe and doesn't either. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 13:09, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:We don't have a policy, no.  I would say if it's not obviously vandalism, warn them first; and even if it is, and looks more like just seeing if the page will actually change when they edit it, I'll just warn them.  But then, I'm quite lenient.  As I see it, you should only resort to blocking when it's necessary, as blocking a user who means no harm will probably put them off editing, but if a user vandalises again we can always revert it. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

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