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==Photo==
Can someone get a clearer picture?
Can someone get a clearer picture?
(I don't know clearer's even a word.)
(I don't know clearer's even a word.)
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:I'm sorry, but I had to return the paragraph back to its original form. Please do not edit other people's posts, but you are right in the fact that this is indeed a theory, and it may not be correct, but please refrain from calling it "dumb" (keep all negativity to yourself)... --[[User:PikminFanatic23|PikminFanatic23]] 23:21, 4 April 2012 (EDT)
:I'm sorry, but I had to return the paragraph back to its original form. Please do not edit other people's posts, but you are right in the fact that this is indeed a theory, and it may not be correct, but please refrain from calling it "dumb" (keep all negativity to yourself)... --[[User:PikminFanatic23|PikminFanatic23]] 23:21, 4 April 2012 (EDT)


I agree w/ the first paragraph in some respects. I think that the mamutas shown in-game aren't fully grown. When they get fully grown, they lay the egg. The Progg will be fully developed in the egg at a certain time, but its shell will take longer to form. If a predator tries to eat the egg, the Progg will hatch and injure or kill the predator. Then, theoretically, it would use its uprooting ability to eat the pikmin its parents buried for it. The nutrients from the Pikmin would make its exoskeleton grow faster and eventually mature it into a mamuta. The fact that the Mamuta and Progg share no features is covered by both theories on this page and the fact that it is malformed. would you think that a malformed baby bird would look much like a regular one? Just an example. P.S: Very detailed theory. --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 15:24, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
I agree w/ the first paragraph in some respects. I think that the mamutas shown in-game aren't fully grown. When they get fully grown, they lay the egg. The Progg will be fully developed in the egg at a certain time, but its shell will take longer to form. If a predator tries to eat the egg, the Progg will hatch and injure or kill the predator. Then, theoretically, it would use its uprooting ability to eat the pikmin its parents buried for it. The nutrients from the Pikmin would make its exoskeleton grow faster and eventually mature it into a mamuta. The fact that the Mamuta and Progg share no features is covered by both theories on this page and the fact that it is malformed. would you think that a malformed baby bird would look much like a regular one? Just an example. --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 15:24, 3 June 2012 (EDT)


:I moved it here because, as far as I can ascertain, it's not fact and your own ideas. Articles are for fact. Feel free to discuss it with someone who has the game on this page.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 21:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:I moved it here because, as far as I can ascertain, it's not fact and your own ideas. Articles are for fact. Feel free to discuss it with someone who has the game on this page.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 21:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
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== Notes? ==
== Notes? ==


That is all for the notes? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
That is all for the notes? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


:Pikmin 1 doesn't have the same notes that Pikmin 2 has. All there is is a brief description from the Enemy Reel. I don't believe it's mentioned in Olimar's daily journal either. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:Pikmin 1 doesn't have the same notes that Pikmin 2 has. All there is is a brief description from the Enemy Reel. I don't believe it's mentioned in Olimar's daily journal either. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
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lol my friend and I played against it and lost 99 pikmin and got 100 pikmin so all in all we gained 1 pikmin
lol my friend and I played against it and lost 99 pikmin and got 100 pikmin so all in all we gained 1 pikmin


:Did you get notes? I'll answer. No. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Did you get notes? I'll answer. No. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


call me stupid but i thinck it resibles a waterwaith it looks like it moves in the same way and i thinck i dosnet look like a mumaute
call me stupid but i thinck it resibles a waterwaith it looks like it moves in the same way and i thinck i dosnet look like a mumaute
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[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 01:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 01:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


:LIES! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:LIES! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


::[http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_family&diff=25457&oldid=25449 *Cough*]--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::[http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_family&diff=25457&oldid=25449 *Cough*]--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
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No your a liar.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 19:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
No your a liar.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 19:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


:Yes, he is my RL friend. AND THERE ARE NO NOTES!!!!!!!! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 10:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, he is my RL friend. AND THERE ARE NO NOTES!!!!!!!! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 10:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


Just kill it and end you should have notes.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 02:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Just kill it and end you should have notes.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 02:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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:. . .--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
:. . .--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}


::... How come nobody on this wiki besides you gets them? HUH?! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::... How come nobody on this wiki besides you gets them? HUH?! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)




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:You don't need to make a new section for your responses. If you're using the "leave message" button, just don't include anything for the title header. Also, we'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a picture, because everyone here has already killed the Progg, many of us multiple times, and we've never seen the notes. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:You don't need to make a new section for your responses. If you're using the "leave message" button, just don't include anything for the title header. Also, we'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a picture, because everyone here has already killed the Progg, many of us multiple times, and we've never seen the notes. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}


:'>.> Ppl with ActionReplays haven't seen the notes... No I don't have one... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 18:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:'>.> Ppl with ActionReplays haven't seen the notes... No I don't have one... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 18:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


The notes he is referring to are in Olimar's Diary in Pikmin 1. You get a note after every day, but not always about an enemy. [[User:Fly Guy 2|Fly Guy 2]]
The notes he is referring to are in Olimar's Diary in Pikmin 1. You get a note after every day, but not always about an enemy. [[User:Fly Guy 2|Fly Guy 2]]
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3 things: 1) did anyone read my translations above? 2) what is this action replay and 3) *takes out an E.X.P.I. 3 asault rifle and zaps lucario.* i think were all in a beter place now. {{user:rocky0718/sig2}}
3 things: 1) did anyone read my translations above? 2) what is this action replay and 3) *takes out an E.X.P.I. 3 asault rifle and zaps lucario.* i think were all in a beter place now. {{user:rocky0718/sig2}}


:1) No. 2) Do you live in a hole? 3) I am already dead. 4)I HAD 1 CHILD AND I ATE HIM! NOW I NEED TO FIND MORE! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 23:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:1) No. 2) Do you live in a hole? 3) I am already dead. 4)I HAD 1 CHILD AND I ATE HIM! NOW I NEED TO FIND MORE! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 23:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Ahem... WTF!?!? <:0 --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 15:29, 3 June 2012 (EDT)


:What translations? Also, an Action Replay is a hacking device kind of like a GameShark for the GC. Try a Google search for some more information about it. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
:What translations? Also, an Action Replay is a hacking device kind of like a GameShark for the GC. Try a Google search for some more information about it. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
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K-ski... me looked them up and they not mankena any esence... how doa youa use-e thema? {{user:rocky0718/sig2}}
K-ski... me looked them up and they not mankena any esence... how doa youa use-e thema? {{user:rocky0718/sig2}}


:This makes no sense '''''AND''''' I can '''''NEVER''''' die. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
:This makes no sense '''''AND''''' I can '''''NEVER''''' die. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 
Yes you can. --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 15:31, 3 June 2012 (EDT)


eats all the tolit paper scrathes poop off self chews finger nails [[User:Rpwyb|Rpwyb]] 20:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
eats all the tolit paper scrathes poop off self chews finger nails [[User:Rpwyb|Rpwyb]] 20:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


:<nowiki>*</nowiki> Rpwyb '''''*CENSORED*'''''* [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki> Rpwyb '''''*CENSORED*'''''* [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtt
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtt


:Uh-huh... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 01:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
:Uh-huh... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 01:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


::O_o--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::O_o--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}


:::0_o - Why are we making faces? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
:::0_o - Why are we making faces? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


::::Because I am at a loss for words...--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::::Because I am at a loss for words...--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
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I say...Moar random faces! ?§_§¿[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 14:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I say...Moar random faces! ?§_§¿[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 14:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


:::::K' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 18:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::K' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 18:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Inside of Progg ==
== Inside of Progg ==
[[User:Royatory|Royatory]] 21:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)Royotary
[[User:Royatory|Royatory]] 21:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)Royotary
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When I look inside of it, I dont see a seed, I see a white soul looking thing that glows. Also, its glowing eyes are kind of creepy.
When I look inside of it, I dont see a seed, I see a white soul looking thing that glows. Also, its glowing eyes are kind of creepy.


:... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
::......{{user:rocky0718/sig2}}
::......{{user:rocky0718/sig2}}
:::......... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[File:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 20:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
:::......... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 20:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 
I think that the eyes glow because they can "see" the heat from Pikmin underground to uproot them (kind of like white Pikmin). P.S: just to add to above "conversation": ... --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 15:33, 3 June 2012 (EDT)


==Theory==
==Theory==
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::A theory wouldn't be speculation, since theories have data to back them up. This is a hypothesis, and while it does make some sense, it has no direct evidence, which is why Crystal hates it. Not that there's anything wrong with speculation, it's just...Crystal. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
::A theory wouldn't be speculation, since theories have data to back them up. This is a hypothesis, and while it does make some sense, it has no direct evidence, which is why Crystal hates it. Not that there's anything wrong with speculation, it's just...Crystal. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}
Most of these are just combinations of the 3. But don't go into all of the scientific crap. --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 15:34, 3 June 2012 (EDT)


Ah... Does Crystal hate all speculation, or just most ? {{User:Killerbreadbug72/sig}}
Ah... Does Crystal hate all speculation, or just most ? {{User:Killerbreadbug72/sig}}
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see,also the hand/feet could be the mamutas claws and SP eyes are so bright there hiding the mamutas eyes AND the proggs poisin "tail" could be very malformed mamuta feet,the progg maybe growing asymetrical and getting the mamutas color...get the connection now?[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 17:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
see,also the hand/feet could be the mamutas claws and SP eyes are so bright there hiding the mamutas eyes AND the proggs poisin "tail" could be very malformed mamuta feet,the progg maybe growing asymetrical and getting the mamutas color...get the connection now?[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 17:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


:I always knew, that. <span style="border:2px dotted #FF0000;background-color:yellow">[[File:Orangebulborb.jpg|30px]][[User:Snakeboss14|<span title="Visit my userpage and vote in my polls!" style="color:green">''Snake''</span>]][[User talk:Snakeboss14|<span title = "Visit my talk page and leave a comment!" style = "color:blue">''boss14''</span>]][[File:P2 Hairy Bulborb Artwork.jpg|30px]]</span> 17:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
:I always knew, that. <span style="border:2px dotted #FF0000;background-color:yellow">[[Image:Orangebulborb.jpg|30px]][[User:Snakeboss14|<span title="Visit my userpage and vote in my polls!" style="color:green">''Snake''</span>]][[User talk:Snakeboss14|<span title = "Visit my talk page and leave a comment!" style = "color:blue">''boss14''</span>]][[Image:Hairybulborb.jpg|30px]]</span> 17:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


Thanks your the first to agree with me[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 18:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks your the first to agree with me[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 18:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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:IIRC, they came from some unofficial guide. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:IIRC, they came from some unofficial guide. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
* I think the poison trail it leaves behind is its blood that is still continually being produced at the same rate as it is being lost because it is newly formed.--[[User:Louie G.|Itsa me! Louie G.]] 21:04, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
== Comment by JustAlex93 on 25th February 2014 ==
What do you think the Smoky Progg would look like if it wasn't deformed? - [[User:JustAlex93|JustAlex93]] ([[User talk:JustAlex93|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/JustAlex93|contribs]])
:It would probably look similar to a Mamuta, if Olimar is correct to suspect that it is the infant of that creature. Just imagine a smaller, much more helpless, and, of course, fleshier, Mamuta, and you have the Smoky Progg hatched the right way! - [[User:Scittery Leaves23|Scittery Leaves23]] ([[User talk:Scittery Leaves23|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Scittery Leaves23|contribs]])
:A Mamuta-like fetus-thing. - [[User:Jpmrocks7|Jpmrocks7]] ([[User talk:Jpmrocks7|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Jpmrocks7|contribs]])
:A Mamuta - [[User:Aaronvernatter|Aaronvernatter]] ([[User talk:Aaronvernatter|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Aaronvernatter|contribs]])
:Maybe it would have hands - [[User:Yoshifun|Yoshifun]] ([[User talk:Yoshifun|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Yoshifun|contribs]])
== Comment by Aaronvernatter on 26th May 2014 ==
A Mamuta - [[User:Aaronvernatter|Aaronvernatter]] ([[User talk:Aaronvernatter|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Aaronvernatter|contribs]])
== Comment by Aaronvernatter on 26th May 2014 ==
Mayby the Mamuta was a smoky progg but it hardened into that shape. - [[User:Aaronvernatter|Aaronvernatter]] ([[User talk:Aaronvernatter|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Aaronvernatter|contribs]])
== Comment by TheYellowSteve on 29th July 2014 ==
The smoky progg dosn't appear to have pupils... Thats something to put in the trivia - [[User:TheYellowSteve|TheYellowSteve]] ([[User talk:TheYellowSteve|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/TheYellowSteve|contribs]])
It can also have either red or green eyes. --[[User:Sherpawoman|YellowPikSherpawoman]] ([[User talk:Sherpawoman|talk]]) 19:43, 15 December 2016 (EST)
== Pearl ==
Shouldn't we have a picture of the golden pearl? {{unsigned|Kirbyddd}}
:Yeah, but there's already an {{tem|image}} tag warning contributors about it. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 06:15, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
==Mamuta and Smoky Progg in Pikmin 4==
In pikmin 4, olimar's logs state that smoky proggs hatch from mamuta eggs, however their scientific names are completely different, with Mamuta being Hortulanus asymmetria, and Smoky Progg being Magovum vaporus. Is there any explanation for this? [[User:GoldPikmin|GoldPikmin]] ([[User talk:GoldPikmin|talk]]) 03:14, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
:No there isn't, it just doesn't make sense. This isn't the first time this impossible situation has happened in Pikmin; see the [[Bulborb Larva]] and [[Empress Bulblax]]. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 03:30, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

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