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Can someone get a clearer picture? | Can someone get a clearer picture? | ||
(I don't know clearer's even a word.) | (I don't know clearer's even a word.) | ||
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HA! Its not a mamuta at all | HA! Its not a mamuta at all | ||
=="Translation"== | =="Translation"== | ||
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:::Oh, please do. Would make sense.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} | :::Oh, please do. Would make sense.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} | ||
==="Smokey Picture"=== | ==="Smokey Picture"=== | ||
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==THEORY regarding Smoky Progg and Mamuta Connection== | ==THEORY regarding Smoky Progg and Mamuta Connection== | ||
The idea that the Smoky Progg is the larval stage of a Mamuta is not so far-fetched. Take a number of examples from both the game and terrestrial biology: The Smoky Progg resembles and behaves like an insect that is familiar and common, the caterpillar. The Progg as much as the caterpillar, moves slowly and precisely in its search for food—no movement is wasted in its quest, to provide maximum efficiency of energy conservation. The terran caterpillar has but one goal, to acquire as much energy as possible for its metamorphosis into its Imago form, which is the butterfly. Likewise, the excess energy gathered by the Progg’s consumption of Pikmin could take the form of the golden sphere that remains after its death. Think of the golden sphere (lets call it the Pearl) as an enormous battery, similar to a tank of nectar, that the Pikmin can metabolize into hundreds of sprouts. However, to the Progg, the Pearl it the key to its adult form, for once it has converted enough spare energy and the Pearl has become too large to move around efficiently with, the Progg seeks the method for entering its adult stage. Here is where the Progg’s biology diverges from the terran caterpillar. As the caterpillar must expend the energy it has gathered to change into a butterfly, the Progg is not so limited—it finds the nearest Bitterwort Berry plant and it consumes enough to calcify into its adult form, its unique alien biology is able to safely metabolize the bitter chemicals so that the rock-like properties become a part of its biochemistry. As the berries provide all the energy for the transformation, the Pearl keeps its energy topped off through the entire process. When the change is finished, the Mamuta emerges, ready to begin its adult duties. As the Mamuta has enough energy to live to pass on its genes (it has no mouth and absorption of water though its pores might be enough for it to live), now comes the phenomenon of sexual dibehavioralism (I made that word up but it suits my purposes). As there seems to be no outward physical indication of a difference between male and female Mamutas, we must assume from their inherent behavior what their gender is. The male (like many terran males) is the more aggressive one; he spends his time in active search for a mate, and pounding food (Pikimin) into the ground. The female waits patiently, not consuming any unnecessary energy waiting for a mate. Once a couple finds each other, some courtship ritual may ensue, and the female is fertilized. The male, having spent his energy mating, planting, and moving, dies and crumbles into smaller stones. The female, not having spent her energy, is tasked with laying the eggs and spreading them out to other places. Once done, she dies as well, and the eggs that have been laid will hatch when they are ready. Once the infant Proggs are born, they seek out the pheromones of the flower Pikmin their fathers have planted for them and feed on them, thus propagating the cycle of life of the Mamuta. - [[User:Anthrolithos|Anthrolithos]] ([[User talk:Anthrolithos|talk]]) | The idea that the Smoky Progg is the larval stage of a Mamuta is not so far-fetched. Take a number of examples from both the game and terrestrial biology: The Smoky Progg resembles and behaves like an insect that is familiar and common, the caterpillar. The Progg as much as the caterpillar, moves slowly and precisely in its search for food—no movement is wasted in its quest, to provide maximum efficiency of energy conservation. The terran caterpillar has but one goal, to acquire as much energy as possible for its metamorphosis into its Imago form, which is the butterfly. Likewise, the excess energy gathered by the Progg’s consumption of Pikmin could take the form of the golden sphere that remains after its death. Think of the golden sphere (lets call it the Pearl) as an enormous battery, similar to a tank of nectar, that the Pikmin can metabolize into hundreds of sprouts. However, to the Progg, the Pearl it the key to its adult form, for once it has converted enough spare energy and the Pearl has become too large to move around efficiently with, the Progg seeks the method for entering its adult stage. Here is where the Progg’s biology diverges from the terran caterpillar. As the caterpillar must expend the energy it has gathered to change into a butterfly, the Progg is not so limited—it finds the nearest Bitterwort Berry plant and it consumes enough to calcify into its adult form, its unique alien biology is able to safely metabolize the bitter chemicals so that the rock-like properties become a part of its biochemistry. As the berries provide all the energy for the transformation, the Pearl keeps its energy topped off through the entire process. When the change is finished, the Mamuta emerges, ready to begin its adult duties. As the Mamuta has enough energy to live to pass on its genes (it has no mouth and absorption of water though its pores might be enough for it to live), now comes the phenomenon of sexual dibehavioralism (I made that word up but it suits my purposes). As there seems to be no outward physical indication of a difference between male and female Mamutas, we must assume from their inherent behavior what their gender is. The male (like many terran males) is the more aggressive one; he spends his time in active search for a mate, and pounding food (Pikimin) into the ground. The female waits patiently, not consuming any unnecessary energy waiting for a mate. Once a couple finds each other, some courtship ritual may ensue, and the female is fertilized. The male, having spent his energy mating, planting, and moving, dies and crumbles into smaller stones. The female, not having spent her energy, is tasked with laying the eggs and spreading them out to other places. Once done, she dies as well, and the eggs that have been laid will hatch when they are ready. Once the infant Proggs are born, they seek out the pheromones of the flower Pikmin their fathers have planted for them and feed on them, thus propagating the cycle of life of the Mamuta. - [[User:Anthrolithos|Anthrolithos]] ([[User talk:Anthrolithos|talk]]) | ||
:I moved it here because, as far as I can ascertain, it's not fact and your own ideas. Articles are for fact. Feel free to discuss it with someone who has the game on this page.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 21:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC) | :I moved it here because, as far as I can ascertain, it's not fact and your own ideas. Articles are for fact. Feel free to discuss it with someone who has the game on this page.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 21:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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I have an idea: whatever caused the spotty bulbear to become what it is, also malformed a mamuta in an egg. It is noted that spotty bulbears adapted to the enviorment. Think of it as a malformed water mamuta.--[[File:Rob.jpg|thumb|72px]] the --[[User:MewFan128|MewFan128]] 14:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC) the master 14:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | I have an idea: whatever caused the spotty bulbear to become what it is, also malformed a mamuta in an egg. It is noted that spotty bulbears adapted to the enviorment. Think of it as a malformed water mamuta.--[[File:Rob.jpg|thumb|72px]] the --[[User:MewFan128|MewFan128]] 14:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC) the master 14:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
Mabye it isn't a larva; it could be an adult, and the "egg" could be a cocoon, and the smoke a result of unfinished metamorphisis | Mabye it isn't a larva; it could be an adult, and the "egg" could be a cocoon, and the smoke a result of unfinished metamorphisis.-random creepy guy (im back!) | ||
== Notes? == | == Notes? == | ||
That is all for the notes? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | That is all for the notes? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Pikmin 1 doesn't have the same notes that Pikmin 2 has. All there is is a brief description from the Enemy Reel. I don't believe it's mentioned in Olimar's daily journal either. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | :Pikmin 1 doesn't have the same notes that Pikmin 2 has. All there is is a brief description from the Enemy Reel. I don't believe it's mentioned in Olimar's daily journal either. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | ||
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lol my friend and I played against it and lost 99 pikmin and got 100 pikmin so all in all we gained 1 pikmin | lol my friend and I played against it and lost 99 pikmin and got 100 pikmin so all in all we gained 1 pikmin | ||
:Did you get notes? I'll answer. No. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :Did you get notes? I'll answer. No. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
call me stupid but i thinck it resibles a waterwaith it looks like it moves in the same way and i thinck i dosnet look like a mumaute | call me stupid but i thinck it resibles a waterwaith it looks like it moves in the same way and i thinck i dosnet look like a mumaute | ||
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[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 01:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | [[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 01:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
:LIES! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :LIES! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
::[http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_family&diff=25457&oldid=25449 *Cough*]--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | ::[http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_family&diff=25457&oldid=25449 *Cough*]--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | ||
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No your a liar.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 19:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | No your a liar.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 19:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Yes, he is my RL friend. AND THERE ARE NO NOTES!!!!!!!! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :Yes, he is my RL friend. AND THERE ARE NO NOTES!!!!!!!! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 10:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
Just kill it and end you should have notes.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 02:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC) | Just kill it and end you should have notes.[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 02:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
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:. . .--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | :. . .--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | ||
::... How come nobody on this wiki besides you gets them? HUH?! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | ::... How come nobody on this wiki besides you gets them? HUH?! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
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:You don't need to make a new section for your responses. If you're using the "leave message" button, just don't include anything for the title header. Also, we'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a picture, because everyone here has already killed the Progg, many of us multiple times, and we've never seen the notes. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | :You don't need to make a new section for your responses. If you're using the "leave message" button, just don't include anything for the title header. Also, we'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a picture, because everyone here has already killed the Progg, many of us multiple times, and we've never seen the notes. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | ||
:'>.> Ppl with ActionReplays haven't seen the notes... No I don't have one... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :'>.> Ppl with ActionReplays haven't seen the notes... No I don't have one... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 18:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
The notes he is referring to are in Olimar's Diary in Pikmin 1. You get a note after every day, but not always about an enemy. [[User:Fly Guy 2|Fly Guy 2]] | The notes he is referring to are in Olimar's Diary in Pikmin 1. You get a note after every day, but not always about an enemy. [[User:Fly Guy 2|Fly Guy 2]] | ||
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3 things: 1) did anyone read my translations above? 2) what is this action replay and 3) *takes out an E.X.P.I. 3 asault rifle and zaps lucario.* i think were all in a beter place now. {{user:rocky0718/sig2}} | 3 things: 1) did anyone read my translations above? 2) what is this action replay and 3) *takes out an E.X.P.I. 3 asault rifle and zaps lucario.* i think were all in a beter place now. {{user:rocky0718/sig2}} | ||
:1) No. 2) Do you live in a hole? 3) I am already dead. 4)I HAD 1 CHILD AND I ATE HIM! NOW I NEED TO FIND MORE! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :1) No. 2) Do you live in a hole? 3) I am already dead. 4)I HAD 1 CHILD AND I ATE HIM! NOW I NEED TO FIND MORE! [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 23:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
:What translations? Also, an Action Replay is a hacking device kind of like a GameShark for the GC. Try a Google search for some more information about it. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | :What translations? Also, an Action Replay is a hacking device kind of like a GameShark for the GC. Try a Google search for some more information about it. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | ||
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K-ski... me looked them up and they not mankena any esence... how doa youa use-e thema? {{user:rocky0718/sig2}} | K-ski... me looked them up and they not mankena any esence... how doa youa use-e thema? {{user:rocky0718/sig2}} | ||
:This makes no sense '''''AND''''' I can '''''NEVER''''' die. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :This makes no sense '''''AND''''' I can '''''NEVER''''' die. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
eats all the tolit paper scrathes poop off self chews finger nails [[User:Rpwyb|Rpwyb]] 20:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC) | eats all the tolit paper scrathes poop off self chews finger nails [[User:Rpwyb|Rpwyb]] 20:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
:<nowiki>*</nowiki> Rpwyb '''''*CENSORED*'''''* [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :<nowiki>*</nowiki> Rpwyb '''''*CENSORED*'''''* [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtt | wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtt | ||
:Uh-huh... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :Uh-huh... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 01:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
::O_o--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | ::O_o--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | ||
:::0_o - Why are we making faces? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :::0_o - Why are we making faces? [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Because I am at a loss for words...--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | ::::Because I am at a loss for words...--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} | ||
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I say...Moar random faces! ?§_§¿[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 14:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | I say...Moar random faces! ?§_§¿[[User:Masta pikmin|Masta pikmin]] 14:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::K' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :::::K' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 18:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Inside of Progg == | == Inside of Progg == | ||
[[User:Royatory|Royatory]] 21:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)Royotary | [[User:Royatory|Royatory]] 21:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)Royotary | ||
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When I look inside of it, I dont see a seed, I see a white soul looking thing that glows. Also, its glowing eyes are kind of creepy. | When I look inside of it, I dont see a seed, I see a white soul looking thing that glows. Also, its glowing eyes are kind of creepy. | ||
:... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
::......{{user:rocky0718/sig2}} | ::......{{user:rocky0718/sig2}} | ||
:::......... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[ | :::......... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 20:00, 6 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Theory== | ==Theory== | ||
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::A theory wouldn't be speculation, since theories have data to back them up. This is a hypothesis, and while it does make some sense, it has no direct evidence, which is why Crystal hates it. Not that there's anything wrong with speculation, it's just...Crystal. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | ::A theory wouldn't be speculation, since theories have data to back them up. This is a hypothesis, and while it does make some sense, it has no direct evidence, which is why Crystal hates it. Not that there's anything wrong with speculation, it's just...Crystal. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}} | ||
Ah... Does Crystal hate all speculation, or just most ? {{User:Killerbreadbug72/sig}} | Ah... Does Crystal hate all speculation, or just most ? {{User:Killerbreadbug72/sig}} | ||
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see,also the hand/feet could be the mamutas claws and SP eyes are so bright there hiding the mamutas eyes AND the proggs poisin "tail" could be very malformed mamuta feet,the progg maybe growing asymetrical and getting the mamutas color...get the connection now?[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 17:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC) | see,also the hand/feet could be the mamutas claws and SP eyes are so bright there hiding the mamutas eyes AND the proggs poisin "tail" could be very malformed mamuta feet,the progg maybe growing asymetrical and getting the mamutas color...get the connection now?[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 17:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I always knew, that. <span style="border:2px dotted #FF0000;background-color:yellow">[[ | :I always knew, that. <span style="border:2px dotted #FF0000;background-color:yellow">[[Image:Orangebulborb.jpg|30px]][[User:Snakeboss14|<span title="Visit my userpage and vote in my polls!" style="color:green">''Snake''</span>]][[User talk:Snakeboss14|<span title = "Visit my talk page and leave a comment!" style = "color:blue">''boss14''</span>]][[Image:Hairybulborb.jpg|30px]]</span> 17:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
Thanks your the first to agree with me[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 18:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC) | Thanks your the first to agree with me[[User:Ysyty|Ysyty]] 18:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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And second, since when do ghosts come out of eggs? {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}} | And second, since when do ghosts come out of eggs? {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}} | ||
um... ghosts aren't tangible, and most dont die two times.-random creepy guy | |||
:The Empress Bulblax|big fat Bulboarb appears three times actually. While this does look like a Wollywog|Frog, it acts nothing like them, and it hatches looking like a frog instead of looking like a wogpole|tadpole, so the only connection between them is that an adult Wollywog has some similarity in appearance to a newly hatched Smoky Progg. As for why this doesn't appear in Pikmin 2, there are two reasons. The first is that the White Pikmin might be immune making this less of a threat, and the second is that this thing could pluck pikmin and kill planted pikmin. Since this is a boss, it would have appeared underground, and the only way to have planted pikmin underground to kill is by including a hundred or so Swooping Snitchbugs on the same level as the Progg. --[[User:Yoshord|Yoshord]] 16:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC) | :The Empress Bulblax|big fat Bulboarb appears three times actually. While this does look like a Wollywog|Frog, it acts nothing like them, and it hatches looking like a frog instead of looking like a wogpole|tadpole, so the only connection between them is that an adult Wollywog has some similarity in appearance to a newly hatched Smoky Progg. As for why this doesn't appear in Pikmin 2, there are two reasons. The first is that the White Pikmin might be immune making this less of a threat, and the second is that this thing could pluck pikmin and kill planted pikmin. Since this is a boss, it would have appeared underground, and the only way to have planted pikmin underground to kill is by including a hundred or so Swooping Snitchbugs on the same level as the Progg. --[[User:Yoshord|Yoshord]] 16:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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And also just because it doesent act like a frog doesent mean its not a ghost of one, HUman ghosts dont act like humans that much, When was the last time you saw a human walk through a wall and re-inact its own death? | And also just because it doesent act like a frog doesent mean its not a ghost of one, HUman ghosts dont act like humans that much, When was the last time you saw a human walk through a wall and re-inact its own death? | ||
Overall this creature is WEIRD-Leekduck | Overall this creature is WEIRD-Leekduck | ||
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pwned ([[User:The snargret guy|The snargret guy]] 15:43, March 14, 2010 (UTC)) | pwned ([[User:The snargret guy|The snargret guy]] 15:43, March 14, 2010 (UTC)) | ||