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  == A theory ==
  == A theory


It all makes sense . . .
It all makes sense . . .
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:Guys, the Plasm Wraith is the only boss with a '''very clear '''phase change. The way I would define a phase is the same creature going through 2 different forms. So far, only the Plasm Wraith fits this definition. Seriously guys, this is the only boss with a clear 2 phases. End of Story. - [[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AeroBlaze777|contribs]])
:Guys, the Plasm Wraith is the only boss with a '''very clear '''phase change. The way I would define a phase is the same creature going through 2 different forms. So far, only the Plasm Wraith fits this definition. Seriously guys, this is the only boss with a clear 2 phases. End of Story. - [[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AeroBlaze777|contribs]])


:The Vehemoth Phosbat is an example of another boss with two clear, defined phases, even separated by a cutscene- battling it in the dark whilst illuminating the cave, and battling it when the main light has been switched on- it behaves differently during this phase, both stopping to rest on the cave walls and appearing fully visible which it doesn't do in the previous phase. This is not an ''action'', like the Wollyhop argument given, this is a whole ''phase'' where the entire phase of battle with the boss has changed.  
:The Vehemoth Phosbat is an example of another boss with two clear, defined phases, even separated by a cutscene- battling it in the dark whilst illuminating the cave, and battling it when the main light has been switched on- it behaves differently during this phase, both stopping to rest on the cave walls and appearing fully visible which it doesn't do in the previous phase. This is not a set of ''actions'', like the Wollyhop argument given, this is a whole ''phase'' where the entire phase of battle with the boss has changed.  


:This is not a ''form change'' like the Plasm Wraith, but changing form and changing phase are not necessarily the same thing in a boss battle- an example from another game series: in the final battle with Ganondorf in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Ganondorf does not change form throughout the entire final battle, however, there are multiple phases in how you fight him. Phases and forms in boss battles are different things. [[User:MegaJ|MegaJ]] ([[User talk:MegaJ|talk]]) 07:48, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
:This is not a ''form change'' like the Plasm Wraith, but changing form and changing phase are not necessarily the same thing in a boss battle- an example from another game series: in the final battle with Ganondorf in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Ganondorf does not change form throughout the entire final battle, however, there are multiple phases in how you are able to fight him. Phases and forms in boss battles are different things. [[User:MegaJ|MegaJ]] ([[User talk:MegaJ|talk]]) 07:48, 29 September 2015 (EDT)


== Comment by Space1255 on 15th April 2014 ==
== Comment by Space1255 on 15th April 2014 ==
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:Neither of their names change, and the emperor bulblax is just more aggressive. It's phases aren't really obvious. Besides, neither have cutscenes separating them, making it more unclear. - [[User:RainbowPikmin|RainbowPikmin]] ([[User talk:RainbowPikmin|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RainbowPikmin|contribs]])
:Neither of their names change, and the emperor bulblax is just more aggressive. It's phases aren't really obvious. Besides, neither have cutscenes separating them, making it more unclear. - [[User:RainbowPikmin|RainbowPikmin]] ([[User talk:RainbowPikmin|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RainbowPikmin|contribs]])
::They don't need ''Cutscenes'' or ''Differing names'' to be considered phases. Also, one could say that Gatling Groinks have 2 phases via the speed glitch. [[User:Pikifan4|Pikifan4]] ([[User talk:Pikifan4|talk]]) 09:09, 3 February 2016 (EST)


== Comment by Supershadow30 on 14th June 2014 ==
== Comment by Supershadow30 on 14th June 2014 ==
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I Fix. - [[User:Alphie From Koppai|Alphie From Koppai]] ([[User talk:Alphie From Koppai|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alphie From Koppai|contribs]])
I Fix. - [[User:Alphie From Koppai|Alphie From Koppai]] ([[User talk:Alphie From Koppai|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alphie From Koppai|contribs]])
== Strategy ==
I found using around 40 Rock Pikmin to be easier than using 100 Rock Pikmin for the Plasm Wraith. This may be more manageable, and easier for a 0 death playthrough of the game. Should I add this to the strategy section? [[User:Mariotime315]]
:I guess so. But using less Pikmin is slower in general, however. Remember to point that out too. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 06:43, 28 September 2016 (EDT)
==Images==
It would be nice to get some transparent images of the Elemental Plasms. I don't know how to make them transparent so someone who can, please do so.--[[User:Sherpawoman|YellowPikSherpawoman]] ([[User talk:Sherpawoman|talk]]) 20:13, 15 December 2016 (EST)
:That's probably going to be impossible, unless the developers give them to us. The Plasms are a bit see-through, so in the same spot you have effects belonging to the Plasm and the background. Cutting a solid object away from its background is easy, it's like carefully cutting with scissors. But separating two things in the same spot is almost impossible... &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:28, 16 December 2016 (EST)
== Plasm Wraith created everything? ==
Hmmm... if most of the enemies in the formidable Oak turn into plasm.... could that mean all the creatures came from the Plasm wraith and the plasm just hardend creating a new species?[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 19:49, 8 February 2017 (EST)
:The game's enemies are normal, organic creatures. It's just that the ones in the Formidable Oak aren't real, but are plasm copies made by the Plasm Wraith. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:47, 11 February 2017 (EST)
::I know but what if the normal enemies started out like that, the plasm just hardened which is why they don't dissolve into plasm like the Formiddable Oak ones.[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 14:29, 12 February 2017 (EST)
:::Maybe, but there aren't any other points that prove that theory, though. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 04:12, 13 February 2017 (EST)
== Boundary Break ==
If someone can get to hack the Wii U for something like Boundary Break, we could find out what the other enemy is on the Plasm Wraith boss battle in Defeat Bosses mode, although i still think it's The Mysterious Lifeform.
:Doing stuff like in in Boundary Break isn't quite possible, at least not for most people. But we have other tools. From what I gathered, it looks like that during the boss battle's intro cutscene, there is a Mysterious Life Form object, and midway through the cutscene, that object is moved way out of bounds and is replaced with the Plasm Wraith object. So what's out there is probably nothing more than the Mysterious Life Form, but inactive. But hopefully one day we'll be able to check for sure. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 07:54, 14 February 2017 (EST)

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