Editing Talk:Pikmin 4

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== What about Captain Olimar  ==

Will he be in Pikmin 4? {{unsigned|CaptianOlimar321}}

:At this point, we do not know for sure whether Captain Olimar will appear in ''Pikmin 4''. However, on Pikipedia, it's not our job to speculate and theorize on what might be in ''Pikmin 4'', it's our job to document what has been officially confirmed. &mdash; [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 20:54, December 8, 2022 (EST)

== Dungeons ==

Underground areas like in Pikmin 2 appear to be in the game, namely one appearing at 2:02 in the newest trailer and an air vent shortly after that appears to be a replacement for geysers. The 'disco long legs' and Empress Bulblax may be fought as bosses in these - the arachnorb in particular has a bit of proof of this, because the camera turns to show the ship pod hovering nearby, meaning this is an underground arena sublevel similar to in Pikmin 2. It may be worth noting the return of dungeons in the article. I can't tell if the dungeons are randomly generated but during the Bulblax fight, the surrounding area certainly resembles the 'snap together' sort of style the 2 dungeons had, but with more ways to fit them together like that diagonal wall.  There also appears to be a wall made of ice in the background - maybe extreme cold becomes a hazard only ice pikmin can brave? 

It's also interesting to note that night exploration may be possible. The red-eye bulborb is obvious, but the area is also notably littered with glowing konpeito. Obviously its unclear if this is actually part of the main game or, say, a special challenge mode, but the candy wasn't present during the daytime.
On a more personal note, ''I am so excited.'' The return of treasures and dungeons are everything I could have dreamed of!!! I hope there's at least enough to match the amount in 2, at minimum. One of my biggest gripes with Pikmin 3 (despite it being a stellar game in its own right) is the lack of dungeons and having a pretty bare-bones selection of collectibles. The fruits looked great, but there weren't very many of them and many were duplicates.

[[Special:Contributions/24.217.91.58|24.217.91.58]] 08:15, February 9, 2023 (EST)

== Enemy Size Variation ==

Is there reason to believe that there will be significant variation in the size of standard enemies? We now have evidence of an exceptionally large Wollywog as well as two different sized Peckish Aristocrabs. This is coupled with the seeming emphasis on different “stages” of an enemy lifecycle - the introduction of juvenile Snagrets and Bulborbs between the larvae and dwarf stages, as well as the return of Bulborb larvae in general. Is it reasonable to expect that we will see variants in standard enemy size throughout the game, with larger variations perhaps acting as mini bosses in certain locations?

Obviously this is speculation at this point so not worth adding to the article, just curious as to if others think this theory is plausible/likely? [[Special:Contributions/67.69.69.8|67.69.69.8]] 14:22, June 25, 2023 (EDT)

== Naming in the Character Creator ==

In the wiki is just written as unknown 3, icon a pencil, but this image is published by Nintendo Spain: [https://fs-prod-cdn.nintendo-europe.com/media/images/08_content_images/games_6/nintendo_switch_7/nswitch_pikmin4/CI_NSwitch_Pikmin4_intro_look_scr01_es.jpg It says "write your name", in spanish] and is indeed located in the pencil icon, I thought that it could be used here, since it's officially published by Nintendo, even when is not in english, it's very clear what it means. --[[Special:Contributions/201.214.127.133|201.214.127.133]] 19:37, June 26, 2023 (EDT)

== Early Leak ==

So apparently the game got leaked early as of today. Well see you all until the release date or never! (Note: I'm not sure if this is true or a hoax.) --[[User:Tardis17|Tardis17]] ([[User talk:Tardis17|talk]]) 06:11, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Edit: Oh when I mean the game, I mean the '''Entire''' game has been leaked.

Hey, don't worry about that here. We don't document leaked content. [[User:Supremekirbo|Supremekirbo]] ([[User talk:Supremekirbo|talk]]) 06:50, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

I know! That's why I'm going into hiding from Discord, Twitter, YouTube, Ect. Anything that involves the internet, so if you to say anything else before I leave do it or goodbye! --[[User:Tardis17|Tardis17]] ([[User talk:Tardis17|talk]]) 06:54, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

== timeline placement ==

Are we certain this game happened after pikmin 3? There is no actual evidence of the game's place in the timeline. As far as I know, that theory in which p4 is the follow up to a alternate p1 where olimar eventually crashed and turned into pikmar could be possible. Or maybe I missed something. (2023.7.9, UTC 15:24)

We don't know at the moment. As it stands, it seems like a retcon of {{p1}} completly, with a whole different set of events. We'll cross that bridge when the game comes out. --[[User:Bossclips|Bossclips]] ([[User talk:Bossclips|talk]]) 12:00, July 9th, 2023 (EST)

In piklopedia entries like the one on dwarf bulborbs and voyage log entries such as the one on yellow pikmin there's evidence that proves it happens at least after the events of pikmin 2. {{unsigned|Jpeg}}

:But then there's also one of Louie's logs heavily implying that Louie's Dark Secret hasn't happened yet, which means that Pikmin 4 also can't take place after Pikmin 2 as well. -[[User:Gulliblepikmin|Gulliblepikmin]] 14:44, December 3, 2023 (EST)

As is I think it really depends on your interpetation of what's laid out in the game as well as possible explainations for contradictions of events in the previous games. For example you could say the game retcons 1, however you could also say that Olimar obtained brief amnesia (he does seem a bit confused after being rescued and needs you to listen to his story to help him remember) you could say Louie didn't eat the gold Pik Pik carrots yet, or he may be planning to do it again, you could say Louie never met Pikmin before and barely knew Olimar, or you could say Louie is a forgetful sort, I mean this is Louie we're talking about (he does seem a bit absent minded at times) you could say  that Olimar never lost the Dolphin or you could say he managed to buy it back. the rescue corps offered to buy him a new ship, you could say that was a joke or you could say that's where the Dolphin 2 came from, you could ssay Kopaii didn't have it's crisis yet, you could say it's having another one, and heres one I thought of recently we can say that the music box that plays 3's theme forshadows Olimar's abduction in 3, or we could say it forshadows the Plasm Wraith could return to chase Olimar down again at a future point. Too many different directions and possibilities, hopefully the next Pikmin game helps clear things up some more Pikmin 5 should explain where 4 takes place if anywhere, theoretically at least.23:15, December 3, 2023 (EST) [[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 23:15, December 3, 2023 (EST)

Basically my Point is the whole thing is like one big puzzle, and that's only considering everything we see in game, not to mention any shenanigians that could/could've happened off screen. Prob best to wait for official confirmation or something. [[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 23:25, December 3, 2023 (EST)