Editing Talk:Goolix

how did you find the picture?--[[User:Goolix|<b><span style="color:black">Goolix</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:goolix|burp!!!]]</sup>[[Image:'s_Family_Crest.jpg|20px]][[Image:Black_Sun.jpg|30px]][[Image:Mandoinsignia.jpg|color:blue|20px]] 21:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

It annoyed me that this page had no picture and that I couldn't find one, so I found a video of the ending credits and took a screenshot.[[User:Bith|Bith]] 13:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Dose anyone think that the goolix and the waterwarth are just different forms of each other?

an interesting thought, but i think they are too differrent: organs, colour, behavior and such

valid point,but what if they are ether relatives,members of an older spicies that split its evolution(example:us and chimps),or mature and immature forms of each other.P.S.for more,go to the main article for "[[Creatures with no known family]]"

Hmm... A good point. That certainly could be true, and I can't really find anything that speaks against it. If Nintendo makes Pikmin 3, (and I think they will) they will probably continue to go deeper with the history of the Pikmin enemies, possibly revealing this like this. And for the enemies with no known families: Although the mutated Mitite as a Smokey Progg is a splendid idea, (the toxic maybe being the modified scent that the pikmin dislike) I don't see any other connections with the Gatling Groink or the Mamuta there, (unless, of course, you give me another point, then I will change my mind) but maybe there will be some in pikmin 3.

O.K. this is a long shot,but heres my theroy:once their was a tribe of mamuta that came across the same machenary that formed the man at legs,or symalar machinary.but only time will tell.but i could become an animal clasifier when new spieshies are found in the ocean.also on the mitite it could be a matured form i mean we only see mitite above the ground for 20 seconds or so.but you could be right.also i think that the mamuta and the segmented crab thing had symalar changes in their stuctueres with their arms.

Yes, yes; now that you mention it, I remember often thinking about the mechanic behind the Gatling Groink and Man-at-Legs. I wondered where they got it from. Olimar's notes hint that they built the parts themselves, but if thats true, shouldn't others be able to build objects like that as well? The Careening Dirigi Bug shows something like that, but possibly the enemy disigners where just feeling goofy and thought: "Why not give it some Baloons?". On the other hand, what if they WERE trying to give the C.D.B. some intellegence? I don't think anybody but the designers can answer this, and I continue to hope for Pikmin 3 and the answer to these questions. In short, nobody can say (yet) if the Mamuta and Gatling Groink, or any other species are related, but it definitly IS possible.
Also, I suppose that you are saying that the Smokey Progg is sort of a mature Mitite? (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think so, because Olimar thinks it's a Mamuta larva, yet again, he believes so, and that doesn't mean it's true. I could imagine a sort of "cross-form", "cross-breed", or "mixture", or whatever you want to call it, between a Mamuta and a Mitite... Actually, if I think again, maybe that happened when a Mitite layed it's eggs into one of the Mamutas... Then again, they would probably eat it instead of somehow "fusing" with it. Well, in the end, I don't see the Smokey Progg as a mature Mitite, because the Mitites we see above ground can already reproduce, giving them, well, I would suppose a 98% chance that this is the final form of a Mitite. And to end this long, long text, I will say that I don't see any connection at ALL between the Segmented Crawbster and the Mamuta, ecxept the assymetrical arms. Although, I'm pretty sure you already found more...

I need a break...

alright I forgot about the notes for the mitite,and i wasn't isinuating that the mamuta and the crab were related,I was just saying that they must have had a syalar change in stucture,also I just got pikmin 1 yesterday and I've faced the smoky progg and lost all my red pikmin(sniffle)and I see no resembalance between a mamuta and the progg.also what makes you think that the caring dirigabug has machinarie.~~Rocky0718~~

Oh, sorry about that. I got carried away with my thought and didn't properly explain what I meant ^_^". I didn't mean mechinery for the Careening Dirigi Bug. I meant the ''baloons'' it floats around with. What I was trying to say was that the CDB might have made them, filled them with helium and put them on by themselves, therefor meaning that they are quite intellegent. I also misunderstood what you meant with the Crab and Mamuta; sorry again. The thing is, I don't understand why the Mamuta ''has'' a longer arm. I recall that it uses both to, well, "attack" the Pikmin and not just using one like the crawbster.
So, then theres still the Smoky Progg. I can understand if somebody doesn't see a connection between the Progg and Mamuta. But if you add the facts that it has two eyes and (small) legs, slightly round like the Mamuta, is a larva and malformed aswell (ergo, other larva would look different, likely more like Mamutas) , then you might be able to see how it could change it's form in it's shell (like caterpillars) and hatch as a Mamuta. As we all know, the egg is gone after day 15, so, maybe it turned into a toxic spreading Mamuta (shudder).
Right, one last thing: If you happen to fight the Progg again and lose a lot of Pikmin, then look onto your Pikmin counter... thing. Once I had 7 Pikmin in Olimars squad and it said there where 6 on the field. I'll try to upload an image to show you what I mean. I would just like to know if this has happened to anyone else before. When I pulled out 100 Pikmin, both counters where on 100 (I didn't count how many there really where, though).[[Image:Proggglitch.JPG|right|thumb|200px]]

the pikmin counter thing has happened to me to.but now i understand what you meant about the carrying dirigibug.and I thought about the small leg and similar shape tho the progg and mamuta,but i didn't want to admit it.

WAIT!:the mamuta larvae and mitite larvae could have formed a smoky progg! like you said they (mamuta larva) could make caterpillar like shells that resemble eggs.well it could (the progg egg) have been a mamuta egg sack that was swarmed by mitites and then the mitites didn't get to an egg that later reproduced with a mitite and formed a prrog.

Soo... You are saying that the Mitites thought the cocoon was an egg, so they layed their eggs inside regardless if it where a Mamuta egg or not; and so they combined with the Progg in thier growth, something like siamese twins? Yeah, I was thinking something like that aswell, if you read my 3. post again you will notice that I wrote: "I could imagine a sort of "cross-form", "cross-breed", or "mixture", or whatever you want to call it, between a Mamuta and a Mitite... Actually, if I think again, maybe that happened when a Mitite layed it's eggs into one of the Mamutas... Then again, they would probably eat it instead of somehow "fusing" with it". Of course, I didn't think it could be a cocoon when I wrote that, but thats still pretty much the same as you suggested. To give you a straight answer: yes, I fully agree with you, it could definatly be a mixture of Mamuta and Mitite.
And you also got the odd glitch with the Progg and Pikmin counter? Well, that means that it wasn't just single-game glitch.
Oh, sry I couldn't answer earlier, my internet didn't work for a couple of days.

O.K. I was wondering where you were.but the counter glich didn't happen to me with the progg it wasn't even in the distant spring,it was at the impact sight.so  it could be a game wide glich.

Wow, how did you manage to do that on the Impact site? I mean, theres only 2 enemies there that can kill your Pikmin. What I also find odd is that I completed the game about 10 times and only battled th Progg 3 times, and I only got the glitch twice. And I REALLY lost a lot of Pikmin the first few times I played it, I think it was over 800. I couldn't even battle the Emperor with bomb rocks because I was on day 30 and only had 4-5 Yellow Pikmin. Anyway, the point is that didn't get the glitch by any enemy except the Progg. My assumption is, that this happens when Pikmin die "slowly". If you throw a Pikmin on the lower back of the Progg, it will slowly slide to the toxic tail. Thats where I got the glitch. I could imagine that what happened to you was that you might have fought the Goolix with non-blues, and when the Goolix moved around the Pikmin might have been cought inside him for a short while and ''then'' started to drown; eventually the gamecube's cpu didn't know how many were dying and got confused. Of course I don't know if this is even possible, or how you got the glitch on this level, but this I is my best eplanation. If you tell me what you did, then I'll be glad to try it out.
 
I wasn't faceing the goolix and it was an even number day and the mamuta was dead.you had a good point but it was void.

The only other enemies that are left there then are the Pearly Claamp Clamps, the Beetle and the bomb-rocks. Did you even fight an enemy? I'm pretty sure you have to lose Pikmin to get the glitch, but maybe you can just get it when a Pikmin gets stuck behind an obstacle or in a wall. It could get idle, and have fallen through a wall. This basicly means, that we have the wall glitch someway.

no i wasn't fighting any enemy and it happend for about untill from noch 3 befor dark to dark.and today i beat pikmin 2.

Lol, it took me one year to finish Pikmin 2, and I had 60 or more Pikmin days. Just a few months ago I completed Challenge Mode with all Pink Flowers. I was awful in the beginning, but if play a long time you can beat even the hardest caves with 0 deaths.
Anywho, I'm completely out of ideas of what happened in the Impact Site. Seriously, if you didn't battle anything, how did the counter change? I've started playing Halo again , and I keep finding new glitches, so I bet Pikmin has alot more surprises left than I thought.

I really messed up a stone gate on Pikmin 1 the other day; I had 2 seconds left in the day counter, and threw 10 yellow pikmin with bomb rocks at a rock gate. There was a subsequent explosion at the 0 second, which turned half of my pikmin into spirits, (they died), while the other half was just about to die, the day ended, and I dismissed them into their onion. I came back the next day, and the gate was 2/3 of the way down, and the first time I hit it with a bomb rock, it went 2/3 of the way up:
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       Before the Bomb Rock    After the first Bomb Rock   After the second bomb Rock 

The second time I hit the gate, it made the "chime" that's heard when you knock down a gate, but the gate remained 2/3 of the way down. I continually tried to knock it down, but it would not collapse. I came back on the third day, and the gate was, (strangely), knocked down. (This was at the Distant Spring)-{{User:Me_just_in/sig}}

Heh heh, I'm surprised you read my discussion with Rocky (you didn't read the entire thing, though, did you?); a similar thing happened to a guy from Speed Demos Archive. I wanted to get some help for my zero-death speedrun (it took me 12 days, but no Pikmin died. Yay!) and came across this: [http://speeddemosarchive.com/Pikmin2.html] ''Day 6: Here the game decided to shaft me, twice. The first was that the ragu wall is still partially up! Back on day 4 I entered Glutton's Kitchen right as it started the final falling, and you heard the bleep-bleep for it falling during the cutscene of jumping in the cave. That wasn't enough I guess, because it saved that it still needed 1 hit to bring it down. So, I took out only 99 blues and 1 yellow to get it down.''

I also had a glitch like yours (the timer ended the day and the gate should fall), however, the gate didn't move, even though it made the sound as if it dropped a level the next day when I came back to finish it. After I kept attacking, it worked without a problem... It's just odd what these gates can do... Right; I think this was the gate beside the dormant yellow Onion in the Forest of Hope.--[[User:Prezintenden|<b><span style="color:Gray">Prezintenden</span></b>]]<sub>[[User talk:Prezintenden|<span style="color:Gray">(babble)</span>]]</sub> 13:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Huh, that's pretty interesting, unfortunately, the gate I knocked down was impassible for the rest of the day :D. Yesterday, (my friend just lent me Pikmin 2, so after I beat it I can look for discrepancies between the treasure/enemy descriptions from the NTSC version compared to the PAL version.), any way, I was carrying back the Ace-Card treasure, (can't remember its proper name). I carried it past a fire geyser thing,(they shoot up the fire), and the Game-and-Watch treasure was beside it, my pikmin carrying the Ace Card accidentally knocked the game in watch into the wall, and when it slid back down, half of it was submerged underground. I tried to carry it with pikmin, but they got stuck around the edges where the treasure began to be underground. I went back for some purple pikmin, (they could have moved it), but by the time I got back, 2 pikmin had died and the Game-and-Watch was fully above the ground. (I later checked my death-chart, and it said that my pikmin were lost in battle, I think they fell through the floor.)-Me_just_in/sig

Sounds like some strange combination of Wall Glitch and [[Carrying Glitch|this]].  Glitches are fun.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

k guys. it's me rocky0718.just checking in.i may not be online for a wile so
ill make it quick.ASAIC ill test the gliches myself and im shure my pikmin wont object.

Wow, this page looks like a long essay from one person... You really failed at signing your posts back then.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

Pah, looking back at my very first edits, then these are masterpieces. Those were full of personal comments and typos. And, yeah, I really let my mind wander while writing all that. it's odd how all that came just from that short 3rd sentance.--[[User:Prezintenden|<b><span style="color:Gray">Prezintenden</span></b>]]<sub>[[User talk:Prezintenden|<span style="color:orange">(babble)</span>]]</sub>

Hey! I know some scary glitches. Last Onion found it, I think you've been on his talk Greenpickle. One of them that I found is that when the Smokey Progg runs into a Wollywog, the Smokey Progg will slide over it and fly for a bit. Last Onion found one in which a Wollywog ground-pounds it, the Smokey Progg will sometimes slide underground and keep killing pikmin. Also, in Pikmin 2 2-player in battle field, you can go out of bounds by useing a Decorated Cannon Beetle. There's a vid of it on Youtube. -Pikiwizard

anyone got more ideas:SOUND OFF(yes or no).

Hmmm, well, Mamutas and Swooping Snitchbugs are like opposites, a Mamuta will plant and flower pikmin, while the S.S.B. will also plant them but de-flower the pikmin.  And I think the Goolix is maybe the only one of it's kind, it does go underground, and maybe during the time that Olimar was gone, while underground, it just underwent evolution, as the nucleous (the gray orb) and roller (the yellow thing) de-materialized and formed into each other but not as solids, and only a bit of the roller was left (this will be explained later).  The rest of the roller and a large bit of the nucleous mixed with the parts of the roller missing, which reacted with the fluidic liquid (the Goolix water membrame) and thus changed appearance and with the nucleous de-materialized, the actions and thoughts spread through the fluid, giving it thought.  The roller bit also underwent develepment, turning into a thin rod that doubled in length because of the newly changed fluid, and split in two, then the two roller rods picked up rock and gravel making it bumpy and with use, they smoothed themselves out, and with the reaction of the roller to the fluid, it was given thought to turn and reverse, making the two rollers that you can see it riding. And while it traversed through the tunnels conecting The Impact Site and The Distant Spring, it made a major cave-in thus splitting the underground tunnel between The Impact Site, and The Distant Spring (The Perplexing Pool), and with it undergound there, also made cave-ins making all the changes of The Distant Spring, making it the new area that we call The Perplexing pool, and kept it's liquid form due to the water located at where we call, The Submerged Castle. [[User:Learner|Learner]] 19:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Well,learner,your sertanly a good example of that name.You have picked up on and specifed my original theoy.I belive you will become an invaluable ideas guy.
I will monitor this page for developments and you should to.~~rocky0718~~

awell,time again:SOUND OFF!

This discussion hardly relates to the Goolix at all :P [[User:Fly Guy 2|Fly Guy 2]] 15:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

...Glad you noticed.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

thanks guys ;(. it origanaly was so please keep negativity downish. so i take it no ideas as of now?

Prez: I'm not glad, becuase I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not :P [[User:Fly Guy 2|Fly Guy 2]] 02:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== yes ==

I do think the goolix and the waterwraith are just different forms of each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:Probably not. The only similarity (I see...) is blobyness (Spelling?). And sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 11:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's obviously derived from their being the only two non-solid creatures in the series, which is just not the way to group creatures.  The differences are just too many and too great, mostly that the WW seems more solid, their colours are different, and the Goolix has that central...thing.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}} 17:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

:::[http://pikmin.wikia.com/index.php?title=Lapis_Lazuli_Candypop_Bud&diff=next&oldid=23877 ''Neeervous system''].--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}} 18:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Ok. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 21:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


Am i getting shot down a lot with my theryos latley, or is it just me. :(. [[User:Rocky0718|Rocky0718]] 19:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)rocky0718[[User:Rocky0718|Rocky0718]] 19:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok Sorry. [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> 10:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== The Forest Navel ==

I don't know about you, but I can swear that the very first time I met a Goolix was on the Forest Navel. When I tried to find it again, and the fact that the Wiki says that it only appears on [[The Impact Site]] was another clue to make me forget about it. But then, I saw the enemy reel. The Goolix there appears on the Forest Navel. If it '''really''' exists in the Forest Navel as well, can someone tell me/edit the article? <span style="color:grey;">[SRB2]</span><span style="color:#800080;"><u>''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''</u></span><sup>[[User_Talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>

:Dunno, I've never seen it in The Forest Navel, but the enemy reel also shows the Mamuta in some area other than The Impact Site, so the areas shown there might not all necessarily be the areas in which they can be found (in story mode, at least). {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

I think I met one one ther too but Iv never maneged to do it agen. {{User:Last Onion/sig}}

:Errrr... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''

Maybe the Goolix in The Forest Navel has some really rare chance of appearing in the challenge mode version of the level? Or perhaps it could appear in some of the older versions of Pikmin 1 as a rare glitch? The enemy reel shows an earlier stage in the game's production. [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]

:There is like (Approx.) a 1 in like 10 million some chance of it randomaly appearing the as a glitch... not likely... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''

== Liek ==

Great no piccy green really ilustrates better... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''