Editing Talk:Goolix

how did you find the picture?--[[User:Goolix|<b><span style="color:black">Goolix</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:goolix|burp!!!]]</sup>[[Image:'s_Family_Crest.jpg|20px]][[Image:Black_Sun.jpg|30px]][[Image:Mandoinsignia.jpg|color:blue|20px]] 21:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

It annoyed me that this page had no picture and that I couldn't find one, so I found a video of the ending credits and took a screenshot.[[User:Bith|Bith]] 13:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Dose anyone think that the goolix and the waterwarth are just different forms of each other?

an interesting thought, but i think they are too differrent: organs, colour, behavior and such

valid point,but what if they are ether relatives,members of an older spicies that split its evolution(example:us and chimps),or mature and immature forms of each other.P.S.for more,go to the main article for "[[Creatures with no known family]]"

Hmm... A good point. That certainly could be true, and I can't really find anything that speaks against it. If Nintendo makes Pikmin 3, (and I think they will) they will probably continue to go deeper with the history of the Pikmin enemies, possibly revealing this like this. And for the enemies with no known families: Although the mutated Mitite as a Smokey Progg is a splendid idea, (the toxic maybe being the modified scent that the pikmin dislike) I don't see any other connections with the Gatling Groink or the Mamuta there, (unless, of course, you give me another point, then I will change my mind) but maybe there will be some in pikmin 3.

O.K. this is a long shot,but heres my theroy:once their was a tribe of mamuta that came across the same machenary that formed the man at legs,or symalar machinary.but only time will tell.but i could become an animal clasifier when new spieshies are found in the ocean.also on the mitite it could be a matured form i mean we only see mitite above the ground for 20 seconds or so.but you could be right.also i think that the mamuta and the segmented crab thing had symalar changes in their stuctueres with their arms.

Yes, yes; now that you mention it, I remember often thinking about the mechanic behind the Gatling Groink and Man-at-Legs. I wondered where they got it from. Olimar's notes hint that they built the parts themselves, but if thats true, shouldn't others be able to build objects like that as well? The Careening Dirigi Bug shows something like that, but possibly the enemy disigners where just feeling goofy and thought: "Why not give it some Baloons?". On the other hand, what if they WERE trying to give the C.D.B. some intellegence? I don't think anybody but the designers can answer this, and I continue to hope for Pikmin 3 and the answer to these questions. In short, nobody can say (yet) if the Mamuta and Gatling Groink, or any other species are related, but it definitly IS possible.
Also, I suppose that you are saying that the Smokey Progg is sort of a mature Mitite? (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think so, because Olimar thinks it's a Mamuta larva, yet again, he believes so, and that doesn't mean it's true. I could imagine a sort of "cross-form", "cross-breed", or "mixture", or whatever you want to call it, between a Mamuta and a Mitite... Actually, if I think again, maybe that happened when a Mitite layed it's eggs into one of the Mamutas... Then again, they would probably eat it instead of somehow "fusing" with it. Well, in the end, I don't see the Smokey Progg as a mature Mitite, because the Mitites we see above ground can already reproduce, giving them, well, I would suppose a 98% chance that this is the final form of a Mitite. And to end this long, long text, I will say that I don't see any connection at ALL between the Segmented Crawbster and the Mamuta, ecxept the assymetrical arms. Although, I'm pretty sure you already found more...

I need a break...

alright I forgot about the notes for the mitite,and i wasn't isinuating that the mamuta and the crab were related,I was just saying that they must have had a syalar change in stucture,also I just got pikmin 1 yesterday and I've faced the smoky progg and lost all my red pikmin(sniffle)and I see no resembalance between a mamuta and the progg.also what makes you think that the caring dirigabug has machinarie.~~Rocky0718~~

Oh, sorry about that. I got carried away with my thought and didn't properly explain what I meant ^_^". I didn't mean mechinery for the Careening Dirigi Bug. I meant the ''baloons'' it floats around with. What I was trying to say was that the CDB might have made them, filled them with helium and put them on by themselves, therefor meaning that they are quite intellegent. I also misunderstood what you meant with the Crab and Mamuta; sorry again. The thing is, I don't understand why the Mamuta ''has'' a longer arm. I recall that it uses both to, well, "attack" the Pikmin and not just using one like the crawbster.
So, then theres still the Smoky Progg. I can understand if somebody doesn't see a connection between the Progg and Mamuta. But if you add the facts that it has two eyes and (small) legs, slightly round like the Mamuta, is a larva and malformed aswell (ergo, other larva would look different, likely more like Mamutas) , then you might be able to see how it could change it's form in it's shell (like caterpillars) and hatch as a Mamuta. As we all know, the egg is gone after day 15, so, maybe it turned into a toxic spreading Mamuta (shudder).
Right, one last thing: If you happen to fight the Progg again and lose a lot of Pikmin, then look onto your Pikmin counter... thing. Once I had 7 Pikmin in Olimars squad and it said there where 6 on the field. I'll try to upload an image to show you what I mean. I would just like to know if this has happened to anyone else before. When I pulled out 100 Pikmin, both counters where on 100 (I didn't count how many there really where, though).[[Image:IMAG0015.JPG|right|thumb|200px]]

the pikmin counter thing has happened to me to.but now i understand what you meant about the carrying dirigibug.and I thought about the small leg and similar shape tho the progg and mamuta,but i didn't want to admit it.

WAIT!:the mamuta larvae and mitite larvae could have formed a smoky progg! like you said they (mamuta larva) could make caterpillar like shells that resemble eggs.well it could (the progg egg) have been a mamuta egg sack that was swarmed by mitites and then the mitites didn't get to an egg that later reproduced with a mitite and formed a prrog.

Soo... You are saying that the Mitites thought the cocoon was an egg, so they layed their eggs inside regardless if it where a Mamuta egg or not; and so they combined with the Progg in thier growth, something like siamese twins? Yeah, I was thinking something like that aswell, if you read my 3. post again you will notice that I wrote: "I could imagine a sort of "cross-form", "cross-breed", or "mixture", or whatever you want to call it, between a Mamuta and a Mitite... Actually, if I think again, maybe that happened when a Mitite layed it's eggs into one of the Mamutas... Then again, they would probably eat it instead of somehow "fusing" with it". Of course, I didn't think it could be a cocoon when I wrote that, but thats still pretty much the same as you suggested. To give you a straight answer: yes, I fully agree with you, it could definatly be a mixture of Mamuta and Mitite.
And you also got the odd glitch with the Progg and Pikmin counter? Well, that means that it wasn't just single-game glitch.
Oh, sry I couldn't answer earlier, my internet didn't work for a couple of days.

O.K. I was wondering where you were.but the counter glich didn't happen to me with the progg it wasn't even in the distant spring,it was at the impact sight.so  it could be a game wide glich.

Wow, how did you manage to do that on the Impact site? I mean, theres only 2 enemies there that can kill your Pikmin. What I also find odd is that I completed the game about 10 times and only battled th Progg 3 times, and I only got the glitch twice. And I REALLY lost a lot of Pikmin the first few times I played it, I think it was over 800. I couldn't even battle the Emperor with bomb rocks because I was on day 30 and only had 4-5 Yellow Pikmin. Anyway, the point is that didn't get the glitch by any enemy except the Progg. My assumption is, that this happens when Pikmin die "slowly". If you throw a Pikmin on the lower back of the Progg, it will slowly slide to the toxic tail. Thats where I got the glitch. I could imagine that what happened to you was that you might have fought the Goolix with non-blues, and when the Goolix moved around the Pikmin might have been cought inside him for a short while and ''then'' started to drown; eventually the gamecube's cpu didn't know how many were dying and got confused. Of course I don't know if this is even possible, or how you got the glitch on this level, but this I is my best eplanation. If you tell me what you did, then I'll be glad to try it out.
 
I wasn't faceing the goolix and it was an even number day and the mamuta was dead.you had a good point but it was void.

The only other enemies that are left there then are the Pearly Claamp Clamps, the Beetle and the bomb-rocks. Did you even fight an enemy? I'm pretty sure you have to lose Pikmin to get the glitch, but maybe you can just get it when a Pikmin gets stuck behind an obstacle or in a wall. It could get idle, and have fallen through a wall. This basicly means, that we have the wall glitch someway.