Editing Talk:Dwarf Bulborb

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Despite what Olimar's notes in Pikmin 2 say here is a screenshot from the enemy reel at the end of Pikmin 1, it cleary says the Dwarf Bulborb is not the same species as the spotty bulborb. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 03:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, you'd think that Omilar would mention something about already discovering that in [[Pikmin 2]], but then again Omilar says that ''recent'' research has revealed that they are actually Breadbugs- and Omilar left barely after he got back, right? So there might not be a glitch about that.[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 19:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

::I think it means that he now knows the Dwarf's family, which he didn't in Pikmin 1.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

:::Yeah, at the end of 1, he knew they were a different species, it wasn't until 2 that he found out what the species was. [[User:Ferailo9|ferailo9]] 00:40, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I wonder why The dworf bulborbs don't screem when their agetated in pikmin2.'''Nin10dude'''

:My guess is either that there was a miscommunication between the programmers and the writers, or that it was decided that Dwarf Red Bulborbs were a separate species ''after'' their behavior had been programmed and nobody wanted to bother backtracking and ripping that behavior out. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

Hmm... sounds reasonable. I think I agree with you on that one. '''Nin10dude'''

They could've just hit puberty. '''THIS IS SPARTA!''' --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 07:02, 13 January 2012 (EST)

The picture of 2 Dwarf red Bulborbs in the gallery is the same as the one with 4 in it. Anyone care to upload a better one (I don't know how to upload images)? '''''THIS IS SPARTA''''' --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 20:06, 15 January 2012 (EST)
:Well, we could just delete the one with 2 bulborbs. To upload an image, use the side bar on the left side of the wiki. There's a link there called "Upload files". Or alternately, just go here: [[Special:Upload]]. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 07:58, 16 January 2012 (EST)

== Vanilla Breadbug: The truth has been revealed! ==

Hey-o, it's me again! I have the Pikmin Guide with me, and in the Field Guide it appoints the "Common Breadbug" with the Technical Name, "Vanilla Breadbug". It seems that all along the Common Breadbug and Vanilla Breadbug were one and the same. (By the way, ALL the creatures had "Technical Names". To name a few, "White-Headed Snagret", "Arachnorb", "Grizzly Grub-Dog". I assume you're all smart enough to know what creatures THOSE belong to.) --[http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/pikmin/images/7/7b/LE.gif 22:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

:That's great but, why bring it up here? And your sig is large and err... needs shrinking. {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::Olimar's notes for the Dwarf Red Bulborb are the only place the Vanilla Breadbug is mentioned. Anyway, wow. Y'know, it's funny, at first I actually thought "vanilla breadbug" was in fact used to refer to Breadbugs, since it's kind of the only point of reference for the Breadbug family we have besides the other Dwarf Bulborbs, but I convinced myself that wasn't the case. o_o So yeah, okay. Redirect it then? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::Done {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::::...I meant redirect [[Vanilla Breadbug]] to [[Breadbug]]. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

Ah, yes, sorry 'bout that. I'll get to resizing it later; for now, it's off the sig. ;P --[http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 20:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

:0_o Muh bad... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

Hmmm... Ya know, I COULD make a list somewhere on this Wiki consisting of all the "Technical Names" given to the Pikmin 1 creatures... Should I? If so, where? --[http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 17:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes you should it would be awesome.

Could be an article explaining what they are. 
Why aren't these in the species articles? [[User:ChozoBoy|ChozoBoy]] 22:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe nobody that has the guide has actually thought of offering here before me. =/ And I'd be willing to do it myself, but I'm not quite sure how. I'm relatively new here, after all. [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 23:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

:I can show you how to make a table... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

:Wait, what is this for exactly? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::Technical Names of Enemies/ Pikmin/ (Maybe) Plants {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::Well, they'd go on the enemy infoboxes, wouldn't they?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::<nowiki>*Shrug*</nowiki> {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::::Yeah, that sounds about right. [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 01:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::What are these technical names again? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::"Vanilla Breadbug" and others... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

:::::::No, I mean, what exactly ''is'' a technical name? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::Maybe scientific names?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::::::Basically. [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 21:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::No it is a more precise classification, like butterfly = (More discriptively) Monarch Butterfly... Yes? {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

:::::Crystal, that would just be its common name, which articles are already named after. Also, we already have the scientific names in the infobox; if you're talking about a literal translation of those names, it's been suggested before, and besides that, I'm fairly certain that the Breadbug's scientific name doesn't translate to "Vanilla Breadbug." It seems more like just an alternate name, which is mentioned now. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::Ah, I see... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

:::I thought he meant for Pikmin 1 enemies, since we don't have theirs.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:Well, here's what it says in the guide: "''When Captain Olimar returned to his home planet, he related stories of the wondrous and exotic creatures he encountered during his stay on the unknown world. Since then, the zoologists have used Olimar's detailed notes as the basis for their studies of the alien life-forms. The following are excerpts from their findings. The common names are those given to the wildlife by Captain Olimar, while all other technical information comes from the scientists' research...''"

:Furthermore, here is a list of the "technical names".

:Armored Cannon Beetle: Greater Lithopod
:Beady Long Legs: Arachnorb
:Breadbug: Vanilla Breadbug
:Burrowing Snagret: White-Headed Snagret
:Emperor Bulblax: Emperor Grub-Dog
:Fiery Blowhog: Porciferno
:Goolix: Greater Water Slime
:Honeywisp: Nectar Spectre
:Iridescent Flint Beetle: Steeliprax
:Mamuta: The Great Protector (God of All Pikmin)
:Pearly Clamclamp: Ploister
:Puffstool: Red Sporovid
:Puffy Blowhog: Flotaswine
:Sheargrub: Mandiblard
:Shearwig: Flying Mandiblard
:Smoky Progg: Piku-Lord (Lord of Pikmin)
:Spotty Bulbear: Grizzly Grub-Dog
:Spotty Bulborb: Greater Grub-Dog
:Swooping Snitchbug: Scarpanid
:Water Dumple: Whiskered Water Dumple
:Wogpole/Wollywogs: Amphituber
::Hope this helps! [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 01:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Guys, this comes from a Prima guide! They aren't reliable at all. In fact, the Prima guide for LoZ Majora's Mask said at one point to use the song of '''''Time''''' instead of the song of soaring! do you really think that these "technical" names are real??!! '''THIS IS SPARTA!''' --[[User:Louie G.|Louie G.]] 07:12, 13 January 2012 (EST)

:::Well jee, that explains where the idea that Mamuta and Progg mean God of Pikmin and Lord of Pikmin respectively. Exactly what context was the phrase "technical name" used in? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::I'm guessing we will keep the pages as Olimar's names for the creatures? {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

:::::Well, we're definitely not changing the names, since those are what they're called in the games. I'd like to hear ''exactly'' what this guide said about these names though. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

I thought I just answered that... The paragraph I typed above was the intro to the Field Guide section of the book... [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 20:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Just one question. What's the Dwarf Bulbear's technical name? [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]

Oddly, the Dwarves' are the same as the big ones'. [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 22:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

:@JJ: OK @LE: Meh >.>

:But, can we trust Prima? They write crap/make mistakes alot... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

Don't trust them, half of the things in their guides are mistakes and/or not true. -{{User:Pikmin Expert/sig}}

Hey, I don't trust Prima either. But I must remind you that this is NOT Prima, this is the OFFICIAL Nintendo Power Guide. AND most info in the book's Field Guide was carried over into the Piklopedia in Pikmin 2, sometimes word-for-word (in the Swooping Snitchbug's case, for instance)! [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 01:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

:I didn't think that was a direct quote, since you separated it from the quote above. Also, a lot of those are the creatures' family names, while others aren't, so...it hard to tell exactly what's meant by "technical name," which is why I was wondering exactly what context "technical name" was used in. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::@PE: That is what I had JUST said before you said it.

::Anyway, I'm kinda iffy, could you possibly scan the page? {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

PikminExpert that purple pellet is awesome. If only purples and whites had onions... [[User:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:blue">Portal-</span>]][[User_talk:Portal-Kombat|<span style="color:orange">Kombat</span>]]

Thanks PK. If they don't have purple and white onoins in Pikmin 3 I will be soooo mad! -{{User:Pikmin Expert/sig}}

I '''do''' trust the Nintendo Power Guide. -{{User:Pikmin Expert/sig}}

:Still, I. Want. A. Scan. ...{{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::Sadly, I do not own a scanner. :( At any rate, these are alternative names more than anything else. [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 14:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Can you take a pic, even with a cell phone and upload it? {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

Seriously though LE, what context is the term "technical name" used in? Is it in a full sentence, or is it just like "technical name: Vanilla Breadbug," or something like that? Also, this guide you've got, does it have the scientific names of the Pikmin? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:LE you need to type EXACTLY what is on the page. {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::Both, really, Jimbo. I thought I made that clear when I typed the Field Guide intro paragraph up there, sorry. Oh, and no, it doesn't list technical/scientific names for the Pikmin, only the enemies. I'll see what I can do about the scanning thing eventually, Crystal Lucario, but, for now, I'm still rather busy with other things. It's probably not critical information, but since it's a Wiki of everything Pikmin-related, I figured I might as well share my knowledge. =)
:::P.S. By the way, I DID type exactly what was on the page. I'll go ahead and type it again: "''When Captain Olimar returned to his home planet, he related stories of the wondrous and exotic creatures he encountered during his stay on the unknown world. Since then, the zoologists have used Olimar's detailed notes as the basis for their studies of the alien life-forms. The following are excerpts from their findings. The common names are those given to the wildlife by Captain Olimar, while all other technical information comes from the scientists' research.''" [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 21:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

::::Well,That is good enough for me. {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::::That says nothing about "technical names" though. "Technical information" has nothing to do with the names. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::It has entries on all the enemies, and the information always lists the technical name next to "Technical Name:". [http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User:LE_the_Creator -So sayeth LE the Creator.] 01:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::THAT'S what I was wondering. You said both. >_< {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

:::::::Someone add to the template... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::::::::Er, I don't think so. I'm still not sure exactly what Nintendo meant with these technical names. Some of these names are the creatures' family names, but some of them aren't. Before Pikmin 2 gave us families, I might have said yeah, but not that makes it seem kind of random. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::::::Ah, yes... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

That's Looks so Realistic! the Bulborb looks like a Red Bulborb, Only More Virtual! {{User:Redpikminflamethrower/Sig}}

== ==
Can that first dwarf red bulborb you fight in pikmin 2 kill any pikmin? I would guess no but I dont want to restart a file just to see.[[User:MRPANTS|MRPANTS]] 08:32, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

:No.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

== Crunch a munch! ==

The Dwarf Bulborbs in ''Pikmin 3'' make different crunching sounds for [[Rock Pikmin]]. So how can I word this better and put it in the trivia? Do I put it like this? [[File:Dwarf orange bulborb.png|35px]] [[User:Ninjabunny1234|Ninjabunny]][[User Talk:Ninjabunny1234|1234]][[File:Dwarf bulborb.png|35px]] 01:38, 2 January 2016 (EST)
:Better served on the Rock Pikmin page. [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 09:28, 2 January 2016 (EST)
::I don't know, I think it works better on this page, since the sound is created by the enemy. But the best thing to do is to add the trivia to both pages. I think the wording is fine as it is. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:24, 2 January 2016 (EST)
::: I'll add it later ''if''  I feel like it. [[File:Dwarf orange bulborb.png|35px]] [[User:Ninjabunny1234|Ninjabunny]][[User Talk:Ninjabunny1234|1234]][[File:Dwarf bulborb.png|35px]] 03:20, 3 January 2016 (EST)

== talking? ==

When you kill one in Pikmin 3 doesn't it say Ouch?[[User:Pikmin Theories|Pikmin Theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin Theories|talk]]) 20:54, 14 September 2016 (EDT)
:Heh, sort of. When I first heard it I considered it was crying out but also closing its mouth, kind of like the reason a cat's call becomes "meow." [[User:Scruffy|Scruffy]] ([[User talk:Scruffy|talk]]) 23:14, 14 September 2016 (EDT)

== Rename ==
The first line literally uses 'Dwarf Bulborb', and as such I don't even see any reason to keep the page title as is. {{unsigned|Avtron}}
:The reason it hasn't been renamed yet is that for a major page like this, there's a lot of things that need to be done to rename the page. Not only do we have to move this page to [[Dwarf Bulborb]], we also have to move "Category:Dwarf Red Bulborb images" to "Category:Dwarf Bulborb images" and change the categorization of all images in that category, as well as move the pages in the Notes namespace about this enemy (such as <s>[[</s>Notes:Dwarf Red Bulborb/louie<s>]]</s>), as well as change the text of hundreds of links around the wiki over time. Doing this is a lot of work, so that's why the page hasn't been renamed yet. It'll be done when an admin has time. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:57, April 24, 2021 (EDT)

I think that it makes total sense to change the page name to “Dwarf Bulborb”, but I think that the “Dwarf Red Bulborb” name should still be kept in at least trivia, saying something like “In ''Pikmin'' and ''Pikmin 2'', the Dwarf Bulborb was called the Dwarf Red Bulborb. However, I think we should wait for Pikmin 4 or some other game with the Dwarf Bulborb in it. This is because ''Pikmin 3'' might be the only Pikmin game (not counting the deluxe version) to call it Dwarf Bulborb. In Pikmin 4 it might switch back to Dwarf Red Bulborb, meaning that the hard work of changing the name will be for nothing.
--[[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 00:37, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
:It makes more sense to just use the name in the most recent game; we don't know if ''Pikmin 4'' will come in 1 year, 3 years, 6 years, or ever. Past names are indicated in the first paragraph, not the trivia, since they're much more important than a trivia note. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 21:44, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
True, we’ll have to see if the Pikmin mobile game helps clear things up (if it does have a Piklopedia that is!). I’m just saying it would be better to wait until there is some confirmation of what the official name is. Besides, we have been calling it Dwarf Red Bulborb as it has been named that in two games, while Dwarf Bulborb has only been used in one (correct me if I’m wrong). --[[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 00:37, July 16, 2021 (EDT)

Dwarf Bulborb was also used in the original Pikmin game. [[Special:Contributions/24.44.76.88|24.44.76.88]]

== Editing ==

Hey, I made this topic to discuss editing the page. The main reason I did this is because I noted that Dwarf Red Bulborbs will release uneaten Pikmin from their jaws upon death, but I haven’t completely checked this over. The only reason I put the unproven information was as a placeholder; I will probably edit the page to note that this piece of info is not entirely proven. If someone could test whether or not Dwarf Red Bulborbs release Pikmin upon death, that would be appreciated. — [[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 20:12, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
:What's going on here is that almost all enemies have a delay between when they eat Pikmin and when the Pikmin dies. In the case of the Dwarf Bulborb, it bites forward, catching a Pikmin, and then chews for a couple of seconds, and only after the chewing animation is complete does the Pikmin die. If you defeat the enemy during this eating animation, then the Pikmin won't die and will be released. In ''Pikmin'' and ''Pikmin 2'', this happens at the end of the death animation, while in ''Pikmin 3'', it happens instantly (I think, I'm not totally sure on that being the case in all cases). It's not unique to the Dwarf Bulborb. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:15, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
::Thanks for the confirmation, I will keep the info on the page. I just needed to make sure that I wasn’t putting false info on the wiki on accident. — [[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 13:25, July 17, 2021 (EDT)

:For future reference, when you're not sure, don't add the info in the first place, otherwise you risk it being wrong, and the wiki will be documenting lies until somebody fixes it (which could take years). Instead, you can write the [[Template:Game help|game help]] template asking for someone to confirm if X or Y happens. Other than that, I made some fixes to your edit. Note that Dwarf Bulborbs won't go for bomb rocks lying on the floor by themselves, they have to be tricked into swallowing one, and that's only a thing in the third game. So I went ahead and corrected that. Also, I've removed the water part, since if nothing happens, there's no point in mentioning it. That said, it is worth mentioning when an enemy has no water behavior, if it looks like the enemy should have. Like, I'm pretty sure Electric Amprats don't do anything when they touch water, even though their electrical properties could make something happen. In such a case, it makes sense to document that nothing happens. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:01, July 24, 2021 (EDT)

== Brittany's Comments ==

Brittany mentions the idea of riding atop a creature similar to the Dwarf Bulborb in her ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe'' comments on the species. Possibly worth keeping in mind for when ''[[Pikmin 4]]'' releases? Considering Oatchi, and all. Then again, it could be playing off of the species of dog that Olimar named the Bulborbs after in the first place. --
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