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== Rename ==
== Rename ==
The first line literally uses 'Dwarf Bulborb', and as such I don't even see any reason to keep the page title as is. {{unsigned|Avtron}}
The first line literally uses 'Dwarf Bulborb', and as such I don't even see any reason to keep the page title as is. {{unsigned|Avtron}}
:The reason it hasn't been renamed yet is that for a major page like this, there's a lot of things that need to be done to rename the page. Not only do we have to move this page to [[Dwarf Bulborb]], we also have to move "Category:Dwarf Red Bulborb images" to "Category:Dwarf Bulborb images" and change the categorization of all images in that category, as well as move the pages in the Notes namespace about this enemy (such as <s>[[</s>Notes:Dwarf Red Bulborb/louie<s>]]</s>), as well as change the text of hundreds of links around the wiki over time. Doing this is a lot of work, so that's why the page hasn't been renamed yet. It'll be done when an admin has time. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:57, April 24, 2021 (EDT)
:The reason it hasn't been renamed yet is that for a major page like this, there's a lot of things that need to be done to rename the page. Not only do we have to move this page to [[Dwarf Bulborb]], we also have to move "Category:Dwarf Red Bulborb images" to "Category:Dwarf Bulborb images" and change the categorization of all images in that category, as well as move the pages in the Notes namespace about this enemy (such as [[Notes:Dwarf Red Bulborb/louie]]), as well as change the text of hundreds of links around the wiki over time. Doing this is a lot of work, so that's why the page hasn't been renamed yet. It'll be done when an admin has time. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:57, April 24, 2021 (EDT)
 
I think that it makes total sense to change the page name to “Dwarf Bulborb”, but I think that the “Dwarf Red Bulborb” name should still be kept in at least trivia, saying something like “In ''Pikmin'' and ''Pikmin 2'', the Dwarf Bulborb was called the Dwarf Red Bulborb. However, I think we should wait for Pikmin 4 or some other game with the Dwarf Bulborb in it. This is because ''Pikmin 3'' might be the only Pikmin game (not counting the deluxe version) to call it Dwarf Bulborb. In Pikmin 4 it might switch back to Dwarf Red Bulborb, meaning that the hard work of changing the name will be for nothing.
--[[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 00:37, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
:It makes more sense to just use the name in the most recent game; we don't know if ''Pikmin 4'' will come in 1 year, 3 years, 6 years, or ever. Past names are indicated in the first paragraph, not the trivia, since they're much more important than a trivia note. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 21:44, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
True, we’ll have to see if the Pikmin mobile game helps clear things up (if it does have a Piklopedia that is!). I’m just saying it would be better to wait until there is some confirmation of what the official name is. Besides, we have been calling it Dwarf Red Bulborb as it has been named that in two games, while Dwarf Bulborb has only been used in one (correct me if I’m wrong). --[[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 00:37, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
 
Dwarf Bulborb was also used in the original Pikmin game. [[Special:Contributions/24.44.76.88|24.44.76.88]]
 
== Editing ==
 
Hey, I made this topic to discuss editing the page. The main reason I did this is because I noted that Dwarf Red Bulborbs will release uneaten Pikmin from their jaws upon death, but I haven’t completely checked this over. The only reason I put the unproven information was as a placeholder; I will probably edit the page to note that this piece of info is not entirely proven. If someone could test whether or not Dwarf Red Bulborbs release Pikmin upon death, that would be appreciated. — [[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 20:12, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
:What's going on here is that almost all enemies have a delay between when they eat Pikmin and when the Pikmin dies. In the case of the Dwarf Bulborb, it bites forward, catching a Pikmin, and then chews for a couple of seconds, and only after the chewing animation is complete does the Pikmin die. If you defeat the enemy during this eating animation, then the Pikmin won't die and will be released. In ''Pikmin'' and ''Pikmin 2'', this happens at the end of the death animation, while in ''Pikmin 3'', it happens instantly (I think, I'm not totally sure on that being the case in all cases). It's not unique to the Dwarf Bulborb. &mdash; [[User:Botanist|'''Botanist''']]<sub>[[User talk:Botanist|''(talk)'']]</sub> 23:15, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
::Thanks for the confirmation, I will keep the info on the page. I just needed to make sure that I wasn’t putting false info on the wiki on accident. — [[User:SeaSideShell|SeaSideShell]] ([[User talk:SeaSideShell|talk]]) 13:25, July 17, 2021 (EDT)
 
:For future reference, when you're not sure, don't add the info in the first place, otherwise you risk it being wrong, and the wiki will be documenting lies until somebody fixes it (which could take years). Instead, you can write the [[Template:Game help|game help]] template asking for someone to confirm if X or Y happens. Other than that, I made some fixes to your edit. Note that Dwarf Bulborbs won't go for bomb rocks lying on the floor by themselves, they have to be tricked into swallowing one, and that's only a thing in the third game. So I went ahead and corrected that. Also, I've removed the water part, since if nothing happens, there's no point in mentioning it. That said, it is worth mentioning when an enemy has no water behavior, if it looks like the enemy should have. Like, I'm pretty sure Electric Amprats don't do anything when they touch water, even though their electrical properties could make something happen. In such a case, it makes sense to document that nothing happens. &mdash; '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 09:01, July 24, 2021 (EDT)
 
== Brittany's Comments ==
 
Brittany mentions the idea of riding atop a creature similar to the Dwarf Bulborb in her ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe'' comments on the species. Possibly worth keeping in mind for when ''[[Pikmin 4]]'' releases? Considering Oatchi, and all. Then again, it could be playing off of the species of dog that Olimar named the Bulborbs after in the first place. --
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