Editing Pikipedia talk:Current projects

How's this?  It could be used to synchronise projects across the wiki, and anyone coming here could find out what there is to do if we put a link to this in the sidebar (use [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]]) and Main Page somewhere.  And I'm also thinking about vastly improving the [[Pikipedia:Community Portal]].{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

There is one more space left anyway, which would even make it look better. Would I be right if I said we merely have to add <i><nowiki>** currentprojects-url|currentprojects</nowiki></i>? And what would you want to change on the Community Portal?--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

:Oops, didn't see your reply here before.  No, you add the proper link with capitalisation and stuff as it's not built into MediaWiki as a codeword like the others are.  I added it.  And for the Community Portal, I think it needs colour and borders for sections like on other Wikia (pretty much all of them); not sure, it just seems lacking.

:Much better or what?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

==Creature's Scientific Names Meanings==

I disagree. Most words are invented. Plus, it's rather simple to guess the names, and it's odd to explain jokes such as ''violinae orchestrus''. --{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

:It's probably not worth translating ''every'' scientific name, but it might be worth noting for some of the less apparent ones, like ''Shiropedes ambulatria''. I would guess that most of the Pikmin fanbase is fairly young and has little experience with foreign languages and Latin roots (seriously, who uses the word ''ambulate'' in day-to-day speech?). {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

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We seriously need more things to put here.  We're running out of projects!{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:I dunno if it's worth putting on the page, but a lot of the treasure and enemy notes have numerous tiny errors (most notably the capitalization of enemy names, but also small typos and slight differences in the phrasing of certain sentences). {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::That's just something for [[:Template:Clean]], really.  And of course, there are [[:Category:Stub|stubs]] and [[Special:Shortpages|short pages]].  They could all be added as a note at the bottom, I suppose, sort of an 'Ongoing Projects' section, but that's kind of what [[:Template:Editing]] is for.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

Intill pikmin 3 we don't have much new materal ,but we need a Bacopa Cabana(a.k.a. the pikmin flower)--[[Image:Large pixal snowy bulborb.PNG|35px]][[User:snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:blue">Snowy </span></b>]][[User talk:Snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:green">bulborb </span></b>]]

:This was old, anyway; there's plenty to do now.  And, I have no idea why that's not already an article; I've heard of it and read up on it before.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

== Beta stuff ==

ok if we can get our hands on more beta stuff like [[Yellow Bulborb]] or [[Dwarf Blue Bulborb]] we can open some new doors --[[Image:Large pixal snowy bulborb.PNG|35px]][[User:snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:blue">Snowy </span></b>]][[User talk:Snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:green">bulborb </span></b>]]

:It is very hard to get beta stuff on what we only see in one picture... [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b>

::[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Pikmin_2_Screenshot_OF.jpg I has found beta].{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::Yay beta! '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::::I hear that Pikmin will be a strategy, war game. Not a search and find game. I think that it would be wonderful if it was like that. I'm Killcam, and this is an uncomfermed rumor. I LIKE PIKMIN!

== Tips ==
Do any of the admins know how to use the tip-wiget. (I can't, I'm not a admin)--[[Image:Large pixal snowy bulborb.PNG|35px]][[User:snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:blue">Snowy </span></b>]][[User talk:Snowy bulborb|<b><span style="color:green">bulborb </span></b>]]

:Tip Widget?  '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''

::Yeah, removed those ages ago, no idea what you were on about.  As for the first question, we have to edit [[MediaWiki:Tips|this]]. Right now, I'll just substitute help:contents into it.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::Indeed... '''I'm''' [[User:Crystal_lucario|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Crystal</span></b>]][[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]<b>[[User talk:Crystal_lucario|<span style="color:Black">Lucario~</span>]]</b> '''And I approve this message.'''


::::I think we should just post Helpful hints here. '''I'm Killcam, Pikmin Master, and I made this message.'''[[Image:Redpikminsprite.jpg]]

==Other==

Hey... I'm a new user, and there is a glitch concerning the Beady Long Legs that I have come across. On the bottom of the slope in the landing site in Perplexing Pool, A beady long legs fell down. Is this normal, Or should I record this as a glitch? [[User:EvilLouie13|Louie is EEEEVIL!]] October 28, 2008 10:41

:It's totally normal. It drops a bunch of pellets and respawns after like five or more days. I think it's mentioned on the [[Perplexing Pool]] article. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

==Physiology==
RAWR! We should have this section, a place where you could easily find info about the creature. we should delete the other info from the summary, and revise it and add and put it in its own separate section.   Argue otherwise, I'm absolutely DYING to hear you. [[User:IAMAHIPO ocolor|<span style="color:Black">IAMAHIP<b>O_o</b></span><span style="color:Red">c</span><span style="color:#ddbb00">o</span><span style="color:Blue">l</span><span style="color:Purple">o</span><span style="color:Grey">r</span>]] 14:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

:Absolutely not, I say. Every single article opens with a general description about the subject, and that description is where notes about its physical characteristics and and behavior go; anything additional is most likely mentioned in Olimar's notes, because that's the only place additional information comes from. I'm opposed to the idea of removing the general descriptions, and like I said about the Fiery Blowhogs, that makes a physiology section repetitive and redundant. If these were real-world animals, where they could be studied in-depth and more information could be learned about them, it would be very neat, but since they only exist in a video game which doesn't have a "Dissect-a-Pikmin" feature (hint hint game programmers hint hint), what we can know about them is limited. {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::Yeah, that.  All wikis have the convention of having the general description of the subject in the first paragraph; anything more specific is in Olimar's notes on this wiki, and anything else we just shouldn't speculate on because it's not knowledge.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::So, can we revert them then? {{user:Jimbo Jambo/sig}}

::::As said, we might get the chance to add this when Pikmin 3's there. But not yet, so revert it.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

== Odd Glitch ==
Hello this glitch happend to me (not my video) and had my pikmin disaper,i once took some pikmin with me to study
this glitch and found the pikmins heads onley showing in the ground,and olimar feet in the ground and if i move more he would  end ontop of the bridge,and looked carfully and seen the pikmin disapeer through the ground.
It's a relly odd glitch,i think they die the same way if the pikmin are thrown off the cliff (the one by the Libra).This is what happend when someone else found this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UhTCi3qQrA

Please note i have the 'New Play Control!'onley and have bad grammer.--<span style="color:blue;">'''your Gnome'''</span style>--[[User:Gnomeking2|Gnomeking2]][[File:Pikmin-peanut.gif|thumb]] 22:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC) 16:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

==New Projects (As a group)==
As you may or may not know, Snakeboss14 has been doing his own project called Project ITA (Improve Treasure Articles) and actualy finished 2 days ago. Now that Snakebos more or less improved treasure articles, and as I said on his Talk page, maybe out next project could be to improve enemy pages, that or the 2-player battle areas, as their pages are lacking in information (.e.g. Maps). Anyone agree? '''RWAR!''' [[User:Joshazilla23|<b><span style="color:Orange">~JOSHA</span></b>]][[Image:Gozira.PNG]]<b>[[User talk:Joshazilla23|<span style="color:Green">ZILLA!!!~</span>]]</b> '''AND IMAFIRINMAHLAZOR!!!'''

:Hm... {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

::Anything that can be improved should be, no? Maps are kind of redundant though, seeing as the arenas spawn in at least 2 different ways each, and it's really not as helpful as they would be for story mode maps. Not saying you shouldn't make them, just saying it's not the most vital part of improving the articles.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

:::Challenge Mode levels need more and can contain more.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

::::Beep?{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

:::::Meep is banned for being annoying 'cording to Agent Orange {{User:Crystal_lucario/Sig}}

== Stratigies ==

Hello, I'm kindof wanting to put stratigies for 2-player battle mode. I just wanted to know if I could make a seprite section on the pagecalled stratigies, can I? [[User:The Purple Pikmin Master|The Purple Pikmin Master]] 00:46, April 14, 2010 (UTC)The Purple Pikmin Master, Purple Pikmin are my power!!!

:Dunno, in my opinion you can do it, but not in a separate page. In the battle mode article make a new section, though I say you wait for more answers. {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}


Not a seprite page, but a section of the page, like the heading is stratigies, i'll try making a stratigy guide, I just hope it doesn't get erased like evrything I write on a wiki[[User:The Purple Pikmin Master|The Purple Pikmin Master]] 01:21, April 14, 2010 (UTC)The Pirple Pikmin Master, Purple Pikmin are my power!!!

:I told you to wait for more people to answer, maybe that's why your work is erased. As long as people agree with you, they won't take it out. And by the way, I know I sound weird, but work on your spelling. {{User:Snakeboss14/sig}}

:...Yeah, if you write like that on the articles, most people aren't going to take the time to try to find the meaning in it and rewrite it.{{User:Greenpickle/sig}}

== i'm going to help! ==
hi everyone! i'm new here [kinda] but i'm going to help sublevel walkthroughs! oh yeah snowy bulborb, i'm going to help that too.

== Challenge Mode Walkthroughs ==

Provide walkthroughs of how to beat the Challenge Mode levels.

-I'm new to this, but I'm not sure if suggestions of Projects should be put on this page. I was confused of what the page said. {{User|Bulborb63}}

:That's a really good idea. We should do that. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}

==Game names==
A couple of bits aren't in line with [[Pikipedia:Policy|the policy]], I don't think.  First, "Pikmin (game)" can be written as "Pikmin 1" in headings just as in page titles, for the reason that formatting isn't allowed.

Second, nothing is said about italicising the series - the section is about game names, titles of an actual piece of released media only.  In fact, I think it's better if references to the series aren't italicised, so that every time you see ''Pikmin'', you know it must be the game we're talking about.  "Pikmin" without italics, then, could be the species or the series, but those are easier to differentiate between from the context, IMO. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

:You mean that in headings, seeing as we shouldn't format them, we should instead write "Pikmin (game)"? I guess that can be helpful in some cases, as opposed to just "Pikmin". As long as "Pikmin 1" is never seen in this wiki, that's great, as "Pikmin 1" doesn't exist. As for italicizing the series' name, I... sort of made that up. I just thought it'd look better, but after having italicized it in the ''[[Pikmin 3]]'' article ([http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_3&action=historysubmit&diff=64025&oldid=63910 link]), I figured I should reconsider. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 17:25, 3 March 2011 (EST)

::If you read the policy, you'll see that it was agreed to prefer ''Pikmin 1'' over ''Pikmin (game)'' in ambiguous cases (page titles, headings, etc.); discussion's [[Forum:Policy#Pikmin 1 / Pikmin / Pikmin (game)|here]].  And that's what I was saying we should do.

::Yeah, it does look like a bit too much: I wouldn't italicise Mario or Zelda either.  I note this isn't from your edit, but why would IGN and the like be italicised? <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

:::I see. I still think we should reconsider that, as, personally, "Pikmin 1" looks rather ugly. I'll discuss it on the policy page which I for some stupid reason missed. About IGN being italicized, I found that weird too... I say we redo that page. It's a bit hard to read, and it's a mess. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 18:22, 3 March 2011 (EST)

== "Brawl Trophy"? ==

Should we change this rather undescriptive title? How about "Trophy Description from ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''? '''[[User:Ridly|<span style="color:darkBlue;">Ridly</span>]] [[Image:Metroid.gif]] <small><sup>[[User Talk:Ridly|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Skree!</span>]]</sup></small>''' 20:20, 24 April 2011 (EDT)
:That's really minor, but I don't see why we shouldn't change it to a more descriptive title. Although what you suggested seems kinda long... Instead of "''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', we could write just ''Brawl'' - everyone knows which game we're talking about. I think "Brawl trophy description" would look good. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:29, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

::^Sounds fine. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

== Game names question ==

Should we move all the pages and categories with "Pikmin 1" in them to "Pikmin" as well? <span style="border:2px solid #001;background-color:#00BFFF;font-timesnewroman;">
[[User:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:blue;">Pikmin</span></b>]][[User talk:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:#800080;">1254]]</span></b>
:Well no. You see, we try to avoid using the term "Pikmin 1" because that doesn't exist. "Pikmin" is the correct term. However, the only way to surely disambiguate between the creatures and the first game is the ''italics''. Hence, in all place where we '''can''' use italics, we name the game "''Pikmin''" and italicize it. If we cannot (like in headers or in categories), we have to resort to "Pikmin 1". '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 08:22, 20 February 2012 (EST)

::Or 'Pikmin (game)' in the only case that doesn't sound silly.  We still need to discuss whether we want to use italics in headers/titles, though - pretty much no-one said anything when I put up the policy proposal originally, and apparently some other wikis do use italics in those cases. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span> 12:35, 21 February 2012 (EST)

:::Seems pretty wrong to me. Would look odd and I can't imagine it being according to wiki etiquette. I'm against it; I still prefer the slightly awkward Pikmin 1.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}

== Ship's dialogs ==
On this page the [[Ship's dialogs]] are included in both the [[Pikipedia:Current projects#Monologs, Voyage Log entries and ship's dialogs|Monologs, Voyage Log entries and ship's dialogs]] project (which is listed as requiring 'some' Pikmin knowledge and having a 'hard' technical difficulty) and in the seperate [[Pikipedia:Current projects#Ship's dialogs|Ship's dialogs]] project (which is listed as requiring 'a lot' of Pikmin knowledge and having a 'medium' technical difficulty). I would suggest we either merge the two projects together or we take the ship's dialogs out of the former project. {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}

:The combined one is for setting all the notes up properly, and the ship's dialogues one is for actually finding and copying the text from the game.  Anyone doing the latter can just dump it on the talk page, which is what reduces its technical difficulty.  The other two sets of notes (monologues/voyage log) already have all the notes (AFAIK) on their pages. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 04:17, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

::I see. Should we change the title of the project to 'Ship's dialogue text' or something for clarification? {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}

:::I don't see the need, but feel free to do it if you want. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 04:26, 24 April 2012 (EDT)

==Brawl Trophy Description==
Hey guys, just letting you know, not to brag or anything, but I fixed all the Brawl trophy descriptions. However, I noticed that some pages were missing their trophy descriptions, though they were mentioned on the Super Smash Bros. page. Should I add them? [[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]]) 23:13, 4 January 2013 (EST)
:Thanks. And yeah, if you don't mind, feel free to follow the same format as the other "Brawl Trophy Description" sections, and add the missing ones. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 07:52, 5 January 2013 (EST)

Alright, so I added the trophy descriptions to all of the pages that were missing them. That's one thing we can cross off the list! [[User:Los Plagas|Los Plagas]] ([[User talk:Los Plagas|talk]])

== Cave project ==

I've been thinking of a new project for a while. I thought, perhaps, we could have individual sublevel statistics for each of the caves in ''Pikmin 2''. What I mean is, before the actual guide for every sublevel, there are bullets, listing hazards, eggs, enemies, etc. An already existing example of what I am talking about is the [[Frontier Cavern#Walkthrough|guide for the Frontier Cavern]] (and to a lesser extent, the Subterranean Complex, which only lists hazards). However, this has the potential to be quite difficult, as it would mean checking statistics for each sublevel several times by resetting. Hmm... There are 99 sublevels, so to check each one, I'd say around 250 resets in all... so it'd be a bit tedious. Thoughts? {{User:PikminFanatic23/sig}}
:Ah, so that's what you meant. Yes, I suppose it could be really boring after a while... I suppose we should add it as a project regardless, and anyone who's interested can go to any subfloor that has missing info and add it. Doesn't necessarily need to be a one-man job. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 06:39, 7 March 2013 (EST)

::Wait, if you're saying to check each multiple times, you're implying it varies - in which case, how can we really list it? <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 16:32, 7 March 2013 (EST)

:::What I meant was that in order to confirm the statistics of each sublevel, we'll have to count them, and reset to count again to see if it is consistent. I did some calculations to see how many resets are necessary to check the stats of every existing sublevel combined. I really didn't word it that well; sorry for the confusion. {{User:PikminFanatic23/sig}}

::::Oh, okay.  I guess we're hoping the numbers don't change, then.  When I get the chance, I'll look through the game data to see if they can be grabbed from there (probably not for a week or so). <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 04:42, 8 March 2013 (EST)

:::::Right. Of course, some things will vary, most notably the number of hazards. Depending on the layout of the sublevel (as they're randomly generated) there may be extra hazards that weren't there before, so some sublevels may have inconsistencies in them. We'll have to label them as ?, ''x'', or some other synonymous symbol/phrase. {{User:PikminFanatic23/sig}}

Okay, looks like most of this can probably be grabbed automatically from the game data.  I see eggs, gates, plants, enemies and hazards.  Some of the formatting is a bit weird, and I don't understand some things, but it looks consistent. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 12:54, 14 March 2013 (EDT)

:[http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/caveinfo.zip Here] is the data I have ATM.  It's in plain text and wiki format, with both 2nd- and 3rd-level headings.  Some numbers may be wrong as we discussed in the IRC - you might want to cross-reference with [http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/stuff/guides/Pikmin%202%20guide.txt my guide] (which may also be wrong...) if any are doubtful.  If it would be more helpful with a slight change in format, I can do that fairly easily. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 09:01, 17 March 2013 (EDT)

I'm thinking we should introduce a new category, ''Obstacles'', which include gates and clogs. Also, for the sake of simplicity, we should just group black and white gates together as "gates". Right now, I'm currently working on the Dream Den... {{User:PikFan23/sig}}

:Category in what sense?  We already have a [[:category:obstacles]].  And with the grouping, do you mean in article text, where they're mentioned?  I don't think that's something we need a standard for - you just use whatever seems the most natural when you're writing it. <span style="font-family:times;color:#080">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|G]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050">P</span>]]'''''</span> 05:43, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

== Fruit ==

Maybe things are more inactive here than I realize, but I personally believe that the Fruit pages should be a bit of a priority. Then again, maybe I am missing something. Thoughts? [[User:Joshduman|Joshduman]] ([[User talk:Joshduman|talk]]) 22:57, 4 November 2013 (EST)
:The thing is ''all'' Pikmin 3 content is on top priority right now. But because none of the main editors has the game, so far, that is going nowhere. Eventually, one of us will buy the game, and update the wiki to its rightful state, fruits and all. But until then... — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 07:47, 5 November 2013 (EST)

Actually, I was told by Prezintenden that he had the game . . . but perhaps he is simply going through a busy period. Or my memory is guilty of deception. But you can ask him, or better, and most likely, he will respond here. -{{User:Los Plagas/sig}}