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This page is where users | This page is where users dump their ideas for [[Pikipedia:Poll|polls]], as well as improve existing ones, or vote whether they like them or not. These decisions are for what polls the wiki should have, not for what poll will be next. Details on the process behind a poll's life cycle can be found in the [[Pikipedia:Poll policy|policy page]]. | ||
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==What sort of online capability would you most like to see in a Pikmin game?== | |||
* Multiplayer in Story Mode | |||
==What | * Multiplayer in cooperative side modes | ||
* | * Multiplayer in competitive side modes | ||
* Custom stage sharing | |||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) people definitely want online things, but WHICH online things? I don't have any idea for options yet, but maybe this poll will be interesting. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 04:15, 16 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
# | # I may be a anonymous user but this is a great idea. I think one idea would be online Multiplayer and also online Story. (Maybe in Pikmin 4, You auto start with 2 captains [[User:Pikifan4|Pikifan4]] ([[User talk:Pikifan4|talk]]) 14:32, 27 January 2016 (EST) | ||
# I'm interested what people will say about this. [[User:Untitled-1|Untitled-1]] ([[User talk:Untitled-1|talk]]) 16:17, 28 April 2017 (EDT) | |||
# While the release of ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe'' has recontextualized this question a bit, I do think it's a good idea to ask about online features. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:38, December 21, 2020 (EST) | |||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * Online Multi Player, Online Bingo Battle/Two Player Battle, Online story (i mentioned this above) and finally, online stage share, (make satges using sand box then, share online) [[User:Pikifan4|Pikifan4]] ([[User talk:Pikifan4|talk]]) 14:34, 27 January 2016 (EST) | ||
* | * Hm, I'm not too sure about these options. Three of them are pretty much the same option. I like the idea of choosing between something like multiplayer and content sharing, but the more I think about it, the more I don't think this will work well. Everyone will want to be able to play real-time multiplayer. Something like custom stage sharing implies custom stage creation, which is an entire can of worms in and of itself. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:51, August 9, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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==What | ==What do you feel about ''Pikmin''{{'s}} time limit?== | ||
* | * It's very stressful and short. | ||
* | * It's not stressful, but it is short. | ||
* | * It's stressful, but fair. | ||
* | * It's nothing special. | ||
* It's too forgiving. | |||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) On the Pikmin Discord, we were discussing why some people find the time limit to be "hard". It occurred to me that we can just ask the community at large. With these options, I'm mostly trying to gauge the stress factor and the time constraint's fairness. We can probably add more options to further gauge what players find "hard". — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:35, 13 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
# I think this is a good poll idea because it requires some thought and answers a useful question. ''Pikmin''{{'s}} time limit is controversial, and I think a poll like this would be interesting for that reason. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 19:43, November 10, 2020 (EST) | |||
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===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
# | # The game may be over a decade old, but as players like myself learn how to play more efficiently, they would see their opinions on the game's difficulty and time limit change (for example, I struggled to make it to the Forest Navel as a kid, but now my best run in the game is 12 days.) I wouldn't think this poll could achieve any concrete entries as many who have played Pikmin 1 in the past would probably find it much easier or even harder today. |\|TechnoMan|/| (talk) 21:13, 18 July 2017 (CDT) | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * There's a lot of options, I'm not sure we really need that many for this question. "It's nothing special" especially seems unnecessary. — [[User:Bossclips|'''Bossclips''']]<sub>[[User talk:Bossclips|''(talk)'']]</sub> 13:14, November 30, 2020 (EST) | ||
* | * The question should make it very clear that it's talking specifically about the first game, not the series in general. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 04:45, August 29, 2021 (EDT) | ||
* | ** Agreed. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:04, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== | ==Have you gotten all Platinum in ''Pikmin 3'''s Mission Mode?== | ||
* | * Yes! | ||
* | * No, but I'm still trying | ||
* | * No, and I'm not going to try | ||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) It'd be a nice way to gauge how hardcore players are for Mission Mode. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 10:27, 1 April 2018 (EDT) | ||
# I agree. This sounds like a good poll. '''--[[User:Ben|Ben]]''' ''([[User talk:Ben|talk]])'' 00:16, November 18, 2019 (EST) | |||
# Relevant — [[User:Bossclips|'''Bossclips''']]<sub>[[User talk:Bossclips|''(talk)'']]</sub> 13:14, November 30, 2020 (EST) | |||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
# | # I think this question would have too many cases where people would be unsure (1-player or 2-player? Original or Deluxe?), and so it probably wouldn't get very interesting results. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:38, December 21, 2020 (EST) | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * It's worth noting that Pikmin 3 has separate medals for 1 player and Co-op mode in Mission Mode, and I'm not sure if there's a graceful way for a poll to account for that. [[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 18:27, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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==What would | ==What Pikmin 1/2 area would you most like to see remastered using Pikmin 3's engine?== | ||
* | * The Impact Site | ||
* | * The Forest Of Hope | ||
* | * The Forest Navel | ||
* | * The Distant Spring | ||
* | * The Final Trial | ||
* Valley of Repose | |||
* Awakening Wood | |||
* Perplexing Pool | |||
* Wistful Wild | |||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) {{unsigned|Jimble}} | ||
# | # '''--[[User:Ben|Ben]]''' ''([[User talk:Ben|talk]])'' 14:48, January 14, 2020 (EST) | ||
# — [[User:Bossclips|'''Bossclips''']]<sub>[[User talk:Bossclips|''(talk)'']]</sub> 13:14, November 30, 2020 (EST) | |||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
# | # I like this, but it has too many options to be a good poll, and The Forest Navel was already remade as Forgotten Cove. Plus, it feels like an unrealistic expectation for such a thing to happen. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:38, December 21, 2020 (EST) | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * Perhaps this question could be reworked, so instead of being "What Pikmin 1/2 area would you most like to see remastered using Pikmin 3's engine?", it could be "What area would you most like to see brought back and updated in a future ''Pikmin'' game?". That way it wouldn't be so unrealistic, and could also cover ''Pikmin 3'' areas. Though, the resulting poll would have a lot of options. Perhaps some of the areas in ''Pikmin'' and their ''Pikmin 2'' counterparts could be combined in the poll options. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 01:36, August 26, 2021 (EDT) | ||
** That does sound better, though like you said, it'd have too many options. Maybe I'd forgo the P3 options entirely, since those still look great by modern standards, but then we'd end up right back on the original poll... — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:06, August 26, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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==What do you feel about glitches in the series?== | ==What do you feel about glitches in the series?== | ||
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* What about "I read about them, but avoid using them myself?" [[User:1337Walrus|1337Walrus]] ([[User talk:1337Walrus|talk]]) 06:45, December 1, 2020 (EST) | * What about "I read about them, but avoid using them myself?" [[User:1337Walrus|1337Walrus]] ([[User talk:1337Walrus|talk]]) 06:45, December 1, 2020 (EST) | ||
* I feel like "how do you feel about glitches" is a bit too vague of a question, since you could get a lot of similar (but different enough) answers to it. However, I'm not sure how you could make the question better. [[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 18:37, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | * I feel like "how do you feel about glitches" is a bit too vague of a question, since you could get a lot of similar (but different enough) answers to it. However, I'm not sure how you could make the question better. [[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 18:37, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== | == What is your favorite Bulborb type? == | ||
* Red Bulborb | * Red Bulborb | ||
* Hairy Bulborb | * Hairy Bulborb | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) Since we did Pikmin types, why not do Bulborbs? We dont have any polls around enemies (that I know of), so this can be cool and unique. The Bulborb is also as recognizable as the Pikmin themselves, and are part of the biggest family in the series ([[Grub-dog family|grub-dog]]). This also includes Bulblaxes and Bulbears, but we can get rid of them if there are too many options. I also think Bulborb Larvae are too similar to Dwarf Bulborbs (same with Dwarf Bulbears) even though they're technically grub-dogs. — '''[[User:CrazyCow|CrazyCow]]''' October 1, 2019 | # (Nominator:) Since we did Pikmin types, why not do Bulborbs? We dont have any polls around enemies (that I know of), so this can be cool and unique. The Bulborb is also as recognizable as the Pikmin themselves, and are part of the biggest family in the series ([[Grub-dog family|grub-dog]]). This also includes Bulblaxes and Bulbears, but we can get rid of them if there are too many options. I also think Bulborb Larvae are too similar to Dwarf Bulborbs (same with Dwarf Bulbears) even though they're technically grub-dogs. — '''[[User:CrazyCow|CrazyCow]]''' October 1, 2019 | ||
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===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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* I wonder if we could tweak the question a bit to be what the user thinks is the cutest, or which they would rather have as a pet. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 18:07, October 2, 2019 (EDT) | * I wonder if we could tweak the question a bit to be what the user thinks is the cutest, or which they would rather have as a pet. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 18:07, October 2, 2019 (EDT) | ||
* Yeah, I like the pet idea. — '''[[User:CrazyCow|CrazyCow]]''' October 13, 2019 | |||
* Not much opportunity for discussion on this one other than "it look cute :)". Maybe if it was something like "which bulborb is the hardest to combat", and the list was shortened to only the more difficult ones. — [[User:Bossclips|'''Bossclips''']]<sub>[[User talk:Bossclips|''(talk)'']]</sub> 13:14, November 30, 2020 (EST) | * Not much opportunity for discussion on this one other than "it look cute :)". Maybe if it was something like "which bulborb is the hardest to combat", and the list was shortened to only the more difficult ones. — [[User:Bossclips|'''Bossclips''']]<sub>[[User talk:Bossclips|''(talk)'']]</sub> 13:14, November 30, 2020 (EST) | ||
* Maybe we could ask the question of which one is hardest/most annoying to fight, since I think players would have something to say about that. [[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 18:45, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | * Maybe we could ask the question of which one is hardest/most annoying to fight, since I think players would have something to say about that. [[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 18:45, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | ||
** That might not be very interesting, since the bosses would obviously win. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:04, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | ** That might not be very interesting, since the bosses would obviously win. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:04, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | ||
==What | ==What convinced you to buy ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe''?== | ||
* I | * I've never played the original | ||
* Nostalgia | |||
* | * The extra content | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) Pretty self-explanatory. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:05, October 1, 2020 (EDT) | ||
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===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
# | # "Nostalgia" seems like an unlikely answer, and the lack of "I didn't purchase it" leaves out a large portion of people. — [[User:Bossclips|'''Bossclips''']]<sub>[[User talk:Bossclips|''(talk)'']]</sub> 13:14, November 30, 2020 (EST) | ||
# | # This would need so many options to cover most cases, so it wouldn't be very interesting. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 17:38, December 21, 2020 (EST) | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
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== | ==Which ''Pikmin'' game has the best area design?== | ||
* {{p}} | |||
* {{p2}} | |||
* | * {{p3}} | ||
** | * <s>{{hp}}</s> | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) Each game has quite different approaches to designing its areas, so a poll like this could see what people think about each one. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 19:47, November 10, 2020 (EST) | ||
# | # — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 14:54, November 11, 2020 (EST) | ||
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===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * Hey! and 2 seem outclassed in this poll. — [[User:Bossclips|'''Bossclips''']]<sub>[[User talk:Bossclips|''(talk)'']]</sub> 13:14, November 30, 2020 (EST) | ||
** | ** Actually yeah, H!P probably doesn't make much sense since it's in a genre of its own. Don't get what you mean about 2 being outclassed though. Should I remove H!P from the options? — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:25, June 1, 2021 (EDT) | ||
*** | ***''Hey! Pikmin'' still has area design, even if it's done in a totally different way to the 3D games. It's still comparable enough in my opinion. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 03:01, August 8, 2021 (EDT) | ||
**** | **** I don't think it's fair to compare the design of stages from a 2D puzzle-ish side scroller to those of 3D real-time strategy games. They're naturally going to be designed differently to suit their respective gameplay styles (and limitations of the hardware.) But since Hey Pikmin doesn't have any peers in the series, there's not really anything close you ''can'' compare it to. So I'm not sure on this one. [[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 18:55, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | ||
***** Guess that's settled, no H!P. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:04, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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==What | ==What would the optimal number of areas in a ''Pikmin'' game be?== | ||
* 1 big area | |||
* | * 2 to 3 | ||
* 4 to 5 | |||
* 6 to 8 | |||
* | * More than 8 | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) Another fanon-style poll, asking about the number of [[area]]s in the ideal ''Pikmin'' game. It could also be phrased as "If you were designing a Pikmin game, how many areas would it have?" It may leave out a lot of nuance (such as area size), and it may have a lot of options (edit: I reduced the number of options), but it could still be a good poll. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 04:28, June 21, 2021 (EDT) | ||
# | # It's better now with the condensed options. Sure, why not? — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:37, June 27, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * Hm, seems like a fine poll to use when there aren't better ones to pick from. I won't add my support directly, but I'm certainly not opposed. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 15:33, June 22, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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== | ==Which leader has the best Piklopedia comments?== | ||
* Olimar | |||
* Louie | |||
* Alph | |||
* Brittany | |||
* Charlie | |||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) I think we can tell what the result of this one will be, but it's an interesting question, and one that relates to both ''Pikmin 2'' and ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe''. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 21:44, June 26, 2021 (EDT) | ||
# | # I'm into this idea, seems like a fun statistic to gather. —[[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 19:01, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * I think we should make it specific for P3D. Otherwise, Olimar and Louie will receive bloated votes. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 11:37, June 27, 2021 (EDT) | ||
** Judging by how much the results for the alternative game mode poll were skewed towards ''Pikmin 3 Deluxe'', I don't think that'll be a major factor. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 03:01, August 8, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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==So far, all of the main series ''Pikmin'' games have been re-released on a later console. How do you feel about this?== | |||
== | * I think the re-releases are great and that ''Pikmin'' games should be re-released on more consoles. | ||
* | * I think the re-releases that already exist are good and there doesn't need to be more of them. | ||
* | * I like the re-releases, but Nintendo should be prioritizing new games, even if it means there are fewer total ''Pikmin'' games. | ||
* | * I don't like the re-releases; the original games are good enough. | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) I noticed that the Super Mario Wiki has polls that are much more specific than ours with much more detailed possible answers. It's hard for us to have very specific polls since we have far less content, but we can still try some polls with more complex answers like this, for more variation in the styles of poll. The re-releases of the ''Pikmin'' series is a good option for this. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 18:32, August 21, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
* | * I'm not sure of the answers that I've put in there so far; they need refinement before it can be a good poll. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 18:32, August 21, 2021 (EDT) | ||
* | * Eh, it's a weird poll. I'm not really feeling it, but I'm not sure I can put my finger on why. Either way, the title can probably be changed to just "how do you feel about the re-releases?" or something. {{unsigned|Espyo}} | ||
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== | ==Do you own any ''Pikmin'' merchandise?== | ||
* | * Yes, a lot. | ||
* | * Yes, a little. | ||
* ' | * No, but I want to! | ||
* No, and I don't want to. | |||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) A simple [[merchandise]]-related poll. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 18:32, August 21, 2021 (EDT) | ||
# | # — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:06, August 26, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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* | * Would an answer along the lines of "I want to, but I can't get any" be viable? There doesn't exist a lot of official Pikmin merch, and a good portion of it has only ever been released in Japan. —[[User:Midnight blue|Midnight blue]] ([[User talk:Midnight blue|talk]]) 19:08, August 28, 2021 (EDT) | ||
** I | ** Hm, on one hand, I feel like it makes sense to include it, but on the other hand, I feel like that'd be the majority of votes. Folks in countries where merch is sold don't read Pikipedia much, I don't think. Then again, people can just buy exported merch online... I really don't know. — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 12:04, September 5, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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== | ==There are a few groups of enemies which are all variants of each other, such as Bulborbs, Spectralids, and Dweevils. What are your thoughts on there being multiple variants of enemies?== | ||
* | * I think there should be more variants of enemies. | ||
* | * I think the existing games have a good amount of enemy variants. | ||
* | * I think there should be less variants of enemies. | ||
* | * I think enemy variants should be implemented differently. | ||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
# (Nominator:) | # (Nominator:) Another more complex poll idea about something people might have an opinion on. — [[User:Soprano|'''Soprano''']]<sub>[[User talk:Soprano|''(talk)'']]</sub> 00:52, August 26, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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* | * Might be okay for a more "bottom of the barrel" poll. Maybe the first sentence of the question can be removed, though. Or maybe like "What do you think about enemy variants? (e.g. all the Dweevil recolors)" — '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:06, August 26, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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