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--[[User:Dark Lord Revan|Dark Lord Revan]] 23:40, 22 September 2010 (EDT)
--[[User:Dark Lord Revan|Dark Lord Revan]] 23:40, 22 September 2010 (EDT)


:First Part: Yeah, you'll probably get your powers back. Second Part: ... {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Sig}}
:First Part: Yeah, you'll probably get your powers back. Second Part: ... {{User:Volatile Dweevil/Vol2}}


::I guess, but are you going to be here?  All you've done since I started editing is promote people, and not always very well. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
::I guess, but are you going to be here?  All you've done since I started editing is promote people, and not always very well. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
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:::Revan, you didn't promote Greenpickle. Dantman did because you and all the other sysops and bureaucrats were inactive. And you made BNK an admin, he even said he didn't want to be one when the issue was brought up. You don't just randomly promote active users; they ask or are asked.
:::Revan, you didn't promote Greenpickle. Dantman did because you and all the other sysops and bureaucrats were inactive. And you made BNK an admin, he even said he didn't want to be one when the issue was brought up. You don't just randomly promote active users; they ask or are asked.


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::::No, he did; Dantman was on the verge of making me and Prez sysops and Me just in bureaucrat when Revan appeared and made me and Prez bureaucrats and Me just in sysop.  (...)  Also, note that JJ was (very) inactive when promoted. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
::::No, he did; Dantman was on the verge of making me and Prez sysops and Me just in bureaucrat when Revan appeared and made me and Prez bureaucrats and Me just in sysop.  (...)  Also, note that JJ was (very) inactive when promoted. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
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::::::If Revan comes back - I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I can't look at the user rights log, I got my info from talk pages, and all that. Revan does do his best to improve Pikipedia when he visits.  
::::::If Revan comes back - I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I can't look at the user rights log, I got my info from talk pages, and all that. Revan does do his best to improve Pikipedia when he visits.  


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:It's okay Vol, I get most of my information from talk pages and all that too. Also, I haven't been the most active user, so I've really only seen him twice (counting now), so I have no say in this. I vote give him the powers, it's not like he'll just go and vandalize the main page. Oh, and, by the way Peanut, thanks for making me panic by bringing up the time when my account was hacked and made me think it had happened again. >_<[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 06:56, 30 September 2010 (EDT)
:It's okay Vol, I get most of my information from talk pages and all that too. Also, I haven't been the most active user, so I've really only seen him twice (counting now), so I have no say in this. I vote give him the powers, it's not like he'll just go and vandalize the main page. Oh, and, by the way Peanut, thanks for making me panic by bringing up the time when my account was hacked and made me think it had happened again. >_<[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 06:56, 30 September 2010 (EDT)
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::::::I don't know about you, Prez, but for days now my watchlist has been dead. True, we're not anywhere close to dying, but the wiki is on a downward spiral into inactivity, and my watchlist has a lot of pages on it. I'm just going to remind you to make sure that there's always a Plan B, and Dark Lord Revan could be a very effective Plan B, when and if the time comes.[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 12:10, 26 December 2010 (EST)'''THE CHILD OF ATHENA (according to facebook) HAS SPOKEN!!!'''
::::::I don't know about you, Prez, but for days now my watchlist has been dead. True, we're not anywhere close to dying, but the wiki is on a downward spiral into inactivity, and my watchlist has a lot of pages on it. I'm just going to remind you to make sure that there's always a Plan B, and Dark Lord Revan could be a very effective Plan B, when and if the time comes.[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 12:10, 26 December 2010 (EST)'''THE CHILD OF ATHENA (according to facebook) HAS SPOKEN!!!'''
:::::::The reason is because of the lack of games in the series and no new ones being released. I'm ssurprised we have this many articles for two games. The wiki will have its death sequences because, well, there isn't really anything to do right now. Of course, we don't completely abandon it and I've been doing maintainance work. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
::::::::Janitorial duties are very sacred. Without janitors, where would we be? So, in conclusion, I think that Dark Lord Revan could possibly be given minor powers as a show of good faith. We can do that here, right? Patroller or something.[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 15:30, 26 December 2010 (EST)
Wait, you're saying the wiki will die entirely if you don't get powers, yet you just disappeared for almost two months?  Bear in mind you made that edit on Christmas day/eve, depending on where you are. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:Seems hypocritical, doesn't it? And why do we bear in mind that he made that edit on Christmas day/eve?[[User:Pikdude|Pikdude]] 15:42, 26 December 2010 (EST)
::: So ditching me by going to a new site and leaving me out to dry IS fair? Do you think that im going to completly destroy the place with my powers? Why would I do that? Why would I force you to give me my powers back then destroy the place I worked so hard to create? Am I really going to vandilise the place after I banned all of those people in the begginning for doing the same thing? What harm could ever come to giving me the same powers that I had on the old site? I really cant understand why this is so difficult. --22:19, 2 January 2011 (EST)
::::Pikdude: he gave no-one being online at that time as evidence the wiki's dying, when you'd hardly expect much activity at Christmas.
::::Revan: what I'm saying is, how would you being an admin help anything, if you hardly edit - are hardly even here?  I just don't see the point.  Have you seen any pages you'd've deleted, any Mediawiki pages you'd've edited, anyone you'd've banned, before an active admin got there first?
::::Anyway, if you're this adamant, I guess we can put it up to a vote; I just don't see why your being the original founder should be any sort of factor in the decision.  You haven't lost access to the wiki, or the level of input in decisions you can have.  You're turning a logical decision into an emotional one. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
::::: What's logical is that all the old admins that moves over currently have they're old powers. Why should I be the only one without it? --[[User:Dark Lord Revan|Dark Lord Revan]] 19:29, 7 January 2011 (EST)
::::::The logic in promoting Snakeboss and CL (who aren't active now) again is that they were active before the move.  I promoted JJ again because he's done an enormous amount of work here in the past.  You're still avoiding addressing what I'm saying, though: you quite clearly want the position only to be able to say you have it, not for the good you'll be able to do with it.  Hmm...
::::::Okay, if a couple of people come here, consider what we've said and give support to promoting you (that means those who did so way back when you first asked don't count), then I'll promote you - to sysop.  If this seems a bit like I'm taking charge of everything, note that I've already said you can put it up to a full vote. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>
:::::::I dont see why it should be put of to a vote. Especially after all ive done for this place, it doesnt make sence for it all to just leave me like that. I already told you, im not going to hurt anything, only help --[[User:Dark Lord Revan|Dark Lord Revan]] 12:47, 12 January 2011 (EST)
:Ok, I'm not familiar with Revan's story, and I'm not quite sure of the situation at hand. But from what I've read, he was an admin back at the old wiki. In that case, it really should be fair to give him his powers back. However, it seems that he's been accused of vandalism or something. If that's the case, and the debate is to whether he'd use the powers to destroy or not... Well, given the nature of wikis, I think it's easy to just give him his powers. At the slightest sight of abuse, he gets them stripped out immediately. If he did something bad, edits and such can be reverted. Unless this is a debate for owner powers. As far as I know, an owner can completely and irreversibly destroy a wiki. If he's just asking to be an admin like he was, he should get the powers back, like I explained. If it's to become the owner, then things might need some further thought. '''{''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]''<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>}''' 13:00, 12 January 2011 (EST)
::No, he hasn't done anything like that. Our greatest fear could be only that he rather randomly promotes people, but even then we can be certain that it's going to be someone who is an established editor. I talked, if that's what you call it, with GP, and we decided to grant him full rights, as only sysop was obviously not his intention.--{{User:Prezintenden/sig}}
::(had this bit typed up before Prez edited)  There's no such thing as an owner; that's a Wikia thing.  It wasn't that he'd do bad stuff, but that he's not ever done a great deal beyond founding the wiki and promoting some people.  There was no need for him to be an admin.  But yeah, okay. <span style="font-family:times;">'''''[[User:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#080;">G</span>]][[User talk:Greenpickle|<span style="color:#050;">P</span>]]'''''</span>

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